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Are they giving away that they've been bothered for most of the last half century about us having a bigger ground or do they think being crushed by your 'rivals' having a bigger, less attended, stadium applies specifically somehow to us? There going with the 38,000 crowds the club claim to be getting as the basis for this too. Fulham looked better attended than most games yet mysteriously was 10,000 down on normal. I thought they'd learned the lesson that extending stadiums on the basis of one season of manufactured gates wasn't a good idea after the last time and the subsequent state they've been in ever since. Get a heedache trying figure these c*nts out I do.

Yeah. The "United" stuff is the one thing about Manchester United (Bryan Robson aside) that's never bothered me.

93/94 was probably the best year for atmosphere I've experience. Apart from 92/93 the previous years the atmosphere was either toxic or non-existent most of the time. The alternative to not making it all season ticket was to have thousands of people queuing for tickets overnight (as with the scramble for away tickets) and thousands in the end queuing for nothing, people from outside the city at a massive disadvantage. The same people complaining about season ticket only would be complaining about that.

Italy aren't a good team. Has a good international team ever failed to qualify for two world cups in a row? The last decade has been the worst generation of Italian football in a century. Yes we won the Euro's, so did Denmark and Greece (also not good teams) largely thanks to there not being any particularly good teams in it. England should have been favourites tonight by every measure bar a massively inferior history. This is how it is with England though. Hype one way or the other, sometimes in successive games. Heroes when they beat teams they should beat and shit when they lose to teams they should lose to.

Wouldn't be surprised if those thoughts have never passed through the mind of a single away fan at Sunderland.

Its not unlike the mackems to have extras making up their support but at least the ones in that video show up

Dixon man, just the fact his voice conjures images of his annoying sulky Tin-Tin face is enough but then there's the words that come out on top of that

Man United in doing absolutely nothing to deserve a win winning shock

From when the atmosphere was good regularly it was the older ones (one behind me springs to mind, loved a moan) and the younger post Keegan one's that contributed the least to the atmosphere with the middle group 20-40 being the touch paper for things. Now they'll be the older ones and the younger ones will be the middle group. Overly simplistic reasoning as to why it is the way it is.

No. When were half decent and have bigger fish to fry they don't matter. They only come to prevelance when we've nothing else - which is how its always been and always will be to them, a perfect reason to be the opposite. Every game is a big game when you're trying to achieve things. Boro is basically Coventry/Sheffield Wed run of the mill game to us but a derby to them ergo we've nothing to win but its their biggest game.

Anonymous c**t that he was.

Did he play in that cup run? Can't remember if he did but you could say that about any game he played for us. Was bombed out by just about then, Tino and Rush at Everton, Shearer back for Stevenage.

At this stage of the season any season the same probably applies

Looked warranted for Southampton on the stats (as encouraging as the result)

7points between 9th and 20th on this day in 95 (Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea all in there)

tee-hee

Used to always want the places miles away and/or the boringist stadiums to go down so cant complain with the bottom three, certainly the bottom two

Old Warlock on for a good result at Millwall

What is a 6 in a row is that this will be the 6th season in a row they've lost their top dogs honour but also finished below Middlesbrough. The sh1t of the north-east 6years in a row. Wonder if that's a first. Have to go back to the 1800s for the last time they finished ahead of us that much in a row not sure where we were in relation to Boro.

..and to make matters worse the weather is now rhiannon

Had 10' of that on before half-time whilst making a mug shot. For atmosphere watch, sounded like a friendly cricket match, not one chant, a ripple of applause, the low drone of chattering, a collective "come on" on one occasion and a ripple of half-arsed applause and half-arsed boos at half-time. You'd never think there was 48,000 there

Nicky Eaden | I had To Apologise For Trying To Fight Steve Bruce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa2zmUIHGEc

Instead of begging them to go to games Niall Quinn should have just lied about the gates to Short and got him to subsidise them some more. Missed a trick there. Seen in the Bilbao thread our relationship with them is "apparently" - despite the first hand accounts and reports, video evidence, verification recently by both sets of fans, friendlies since, folklore and a documentary on Futbol Mundial about it. But some tenuous link to them from over a 100years ago is like soul-mates At best they're a lesser version of what Notts County are to Juventus because because at least Juve acknowledge Notts County.

..Robbie Keane, Klinsmann (via Monaco), Carbone for a 10 was decent, Bryan Roy, Dahlin Boksic when fit I imagine had a good record,