Wolfcastle

We want them to push spending as far as they can don't we? Certainly not blaming them for that when I know they'd be blamed for not doing that.

Its not even close for me. We'd be no less likely to challenge for the CL with a good team and points handicap than we would by selling our better players, being a modest team without a points handicap - plus we'd get to see better football and more wins. Its an absolute farce they've created. That they think its worth all this just to keep certain clubs happy and entitled.

Always wondered how it felt to support someone other than Rangers/Celtic in Scotland. The hopelessness, dreamlessness and pointlessness of the unbridgeable gap outside of a one-off miracle and them hovering around any finds you unearth. Thanks to PSR/FFP, like every other club that wasn't by an empty chair when the clubs by the empty chairs turned the music off, I wonder no more.

Wenger was quite happy to forge his reputation at Monaco. The original financial dopers with their 3,000 gates, modest history and yet superstar players.

Its even less fun thinking that we probably wouldn't be allowed under current rules to make that signing - despite getting back more than treble the investment a few years later after record breaking goal-scoring - the sort of football thing of its first 150years that did okay that new rules don't and cant take into account.

He's exactly what they need. Unfortunately for them.

Its based on a lot more than throwing two cups like. Been going on like this for decades.

We'd consider it demanding if it were Brazil or Argentina but this objectively is more like Denmark or Belgium fans complaining about winning a group but not in the manner they expect - which I don't recall England ever doing

Cant think of a worse group in European Championship history.

Shocking turn of events - Mitro booked for losing his head (had his shirt pulled and could have been a pen though)

That's a matter of opinion but it was not 'shite'

Shearer, Owen, Beckham,Scholes, Gerrard, McManaman

Get knocked out at the first hurdle with better attacking talent like in 2000 perhaps

Serbia goal ruled out for an offside shoulder

Denmark Serbia is no treat either. Group of bored to death.

Any odds on an ear-cupping goal celebration? Ton of criticsm from the media and fans has served them well in the past

Just make signing a 'no compete' clause mandatory upon Premier League membership. Ambition is becomming a dirty word when until very recently its precisely what fans wanted and dream of for their clubs, now its like some sort of perverse anti-football fantasy

Weird the amount of effort they'll put in and amount of rules they'll change to keep the red clubs/Spurs happy. They ought to have a think about why they're putting so much legislation into football and jumping through so many hoops instead of just doing so and whether its worth it just to preserve a self annointed status quo. Especially if its fear of them breaking away.

Opportunistic browsing given Everton's apparent need to sell and last year of his contract - if that's not reflected in the cost, no sweat we'll just stick, were the ones doing him/them the favour here that might have worked out well for all parties. Like to think we could revist in January if needs be with injuries for a more reasonable sub20mill fee

Perhaps in our case but Chelsea for sure sign so many that they know only a few will play any amount of games for them and the rest are just assets to trade off.

If anything its a foul by Armstrong. Accidentally or otherwise he causes the initial trip that causes the Hungarian to begin to fall and makes sure of it by hauling him down by his shirt. Its one thing to get in front of the defenders but you don't see people do it in that obvious and ungainly a fashion which made it at least look very much look like he was desperate for contact to take the dive. All the Hungarian arguably did wrong was get his arm slightly across the chest and it would have been extremely harsh to give it for that. Daft really as it was by far their best chance of the game and should have been more concerrned with getting a shot off. *Also wants a "European" ref. Like they speak Argentinian in Argentina.

Old Patrick Kluivert did for them in 96 even after they actually won. Its got to be a joke on them. Great news.

Had as good a team as England until their total dominance started in 1987. Also just remembered Ferguson was in the crowd, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

They're cursed on two fronts. By being an awful team fully warranting the defeat and exit but the manner of it, though just, feels like a cosmic joke all the same.

Incredible how he's made such a pigs ear out of something that should have been so trivial and could even now be sorted by simply paying the money were due - on top of which I cant see Ashworth being worth the faff.