Kid Icarus

I get the argument like, he's a fantastic all-round striker providing he gets service.

Think Neesy means he stayed on his line for crosses.

Not even in the same league for me, especially Suarez, who I think with hindsight possibly reached the high watermark of any individual player in the Premier League.

Much more into the players that control matches personally, but each to their own. Do think there's been a big drop off in quality as well like. Feels like a really long that the league had a proper superstar at Suarez or even Bale level.

I remember a few of us thinking this about Man City and our fans a long time ago. Unbelievably naive.

Oh aye "what a load of tripe", "have you heard yourself" and "you think you know better than the club" all just because I said Gordon needs to be consistent - something loads of people, including he himself have said - are the proper internet comment etiquette of someone with thick skin and a strong character. I'll end it there, no point wasting either of our time.

I have no clue what you're on about, I'm talking about Gordon’s inconsistent form that he's had over at least the last year. Nothing to do with knowing better than people at the club and I'd be shocked if everyone at the club, including Howe and including Gordon himself (both who have commented on it publicly) was happy with his form during that time. Gordon’s problem isn't what he's capable of, it's consistency, and that's a fairly widespread opinion on him. No idea why I'm even explaining it to you when you're being such an obnoxious arsehole tbh.

Not sure what your problem is tbh, but you've said nothing worth getting into beyond just telling you to fuck off anyway, so aye...

I think that's the right way to look at it. It would be nice if the same outlook was applied to us (not by you, just in general)

We've come full circle

They did until March. They were 10th by the end of February.

I would hope so considering how long he was here. Elanga's shown nowhere near enough, but still has an assist more than Miggy did with about 8 months to spare and can count himself unlucky to not have a few more.

That's the second time I've seen that Man United 'keeper dive full stretch into the middle of his goal.

Quite liked that Geordie Journos channel until our form this season exposed how extreme their fickleness is (especially the rent-a-gob one)

Imo Howe's definitely set a bit of a rod for his own back by getting us to do this loads.

If only you'd let us

Rose tinted goggles tbh. Pressing? Under Rafa? I remember the same sort of rhetoric around Miggy for a long while.

Took Miggy about a year to get a goal or an assist IIRC.

First we're hearing of it.

Gordon is very specifically the player that's been playing like that above everyone else and at the expense of another player (Barnes). It's not about singling him out when there are other examples you could point to, he's the only example and he's been given a very long rope for a very long time.

Just as he did a few games ago before stinking the place out. His form has been incredibly patchy for over a year, if you're happy with that good for you.

Caicedo is the best player in the league and has been for about a year now I think. Very annoying because for ages the money they spent on him looked like a complete waste.

It's a toss-up between Given's longevity and Pope's peak for me. No idea where Krul fits in.

Fair, it was in and the rules don't stipulate about anything beyond that. Can only assume it was down to ref guidelines about interpretation ie a shot had been taken and Schär's challenge was a natural consequence, or it was just an error. My own view, rules aside, is that because he's taken the shot before the foul and the ball is no longer in his control and goes out of play beyond that, it's not a pen. Either way it changes nothing about today's one obvious pen, and two other strong contenders that are in different circumstances to each other and the Foden one.

Same argument and no it wasn't, it was travelling at about 50mph towards the advertising boards.