Kid Icarus

Fair enough.

Because some people are a bit weird.

Offside in the first half. It was off but some would argue that sort of hair's width decision is negligible

It's 0-0 Should be 1-1 or 1-0 without VAR sticking its oar in.

Ridiculous decision, beyond a joke.

If this is offside, whoever was blocking for Casemiro was off last year. Ridiculous that this is getting looked at imo.

It's honestly a welcome change from Drury and Neville's patter.

I don't think your expectations would even be in focus right now without a ridiculous series of injuries that's depleted every department of the team and highlighted some of the improvements that need to be made. Your expectations are realistic as part of the plan for the squad over a few years, but I don't think it's a failure on the clubs part to have not addressed them yet. Without FFP it would be reasonable to expect every eventuality to be covered, but with it I'm not sure how you could do everything we have and also sign a 2nd choice 'keeper, another midfielder to cover for the 5 who've been regularly out this season, and a 1 in 2 second striker without doing any combination of: breaking FFP, signing below standard players and (without the benefit of hindsight) being a bit paranoid about the extent that cover is needed.

Caicedo's actually shit like, it's hilarious

Let the gaslighting begin

Such a reductive argument. From my understanding of every argument you've made about our 'keeper, midfield, and striker situation, because the club hasn't accounted for each weakness, it's a failure on the clubs part and the elephant in the room - that those weaknesses are exposed because of an unprecendented injury crisis that's hit all departments collectively - is in the end, making excuses. Would that be fair? The club should have either got a 2nd choice sweeper keeper, a DM, and replaced a 1 in 2 striker instead of...? Or got them on top of our spend in the summer. It's all hypothetical but who's to say that if we'd accounted for those weaknesses, the weaknesses we did account for wouldn't have been exposed instead.

Remember the flack Rafa used to get for the style of football we played. And that was with him rummaging around the bargain bins. Imagine how quickly people would turn when it dawned on them that Mourinho's football is as bad with reasonable funding behind him.

Definitely not. Anti-football cheque book manager who gets his teams blowing their load for a season or two, then does off when the money runs out and leaves the club with a bunch of has-beens with no resale value. Also, he's an arse hole who doesn't think twice about throwing players and owners under the bus, moans relentlessly in the press, and all while buttering up to the fans to avoid as much scrutiny as possible.

I'd say it's more "bringing in Livramento for Burn won't solve as much as some people seem to think it will" For one, regardless of who's there, our midfield is still open and leaves our defence exposed.

You're not disagreeing with me here, you're emphasising the point I'm making. The rest I think is a bit over the top and excessively pessimistic imo, but that's your opinion, fair enough.

The point is that having Dan Burn in the ream isn't just about him vs the opposition RW, it's about how he fits in to the system we have. As mentioned last week, him being there means Trippier's the full back that gets forward.

He's not fit

Okay, well if Klopp has weaknesses (and Pep will too) then you would hope people might put things into perspective. Some won't but some will.

Some people just have long enough memories to remember what horrific actually looks like.

I actually think you might be more mental than MBS

Honestly should be a lesson to learn. I can't imagine many on here don't rate Klopp. If it didn't work for him in an injury hit season...

Feels moot tbh, but for posterity Karius: 5 Trippier: 6 Schär: 5 Botman: 4 Livramento: 5.5 Longstaff: 5 Bruno: 5.5 Miley: 6 Almiron: 5.5 Isak: 5.5 Gordon: 6 Willock: 7 Barnes: 6

This applies to nigh on every manager

Or has a plan B.

I agree. I think we just need to remember that just like that year that might mean us screaming "why have we sold/signed...!?" before we realise that Howe knows what he's doing and we're clueless.