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Haven't seen Tielemans play for a few years, thought he was generally fucking rubbish the other day. Mind, he was playing against us I suppose

What's that you say, Sunderland's a massive club? I heard a song about that once

Reading the headline 'arsenal go seven points clear' then realising it's of us in second

Their pure class will see them top half marra

hhehehe

It's Matthew Upson I think?

Not sure it has no character at the minute but plenty of folk who remember it being smaller are more passionate about how it used to be I don't mind it being lopsided but the only aspect of the current stadium I really love seeing is from towards the bottom of Barrack Road where the entrance to the car parks is, I don't think it looks so great from any other angle personally.

Basically this giving up the existing SJP as part of the deal would obviously further improve Leazes Terrace

Aye Leazes Park is going to rats-and-goose-shit ruin though, and it has been for years now - there may be a conversation to be had on better use of what is currently Castle Leazes, Leazes Park and SJP, is what I'm saying are there no precedents for grade II listed land and building being developed in certain circumstances? London must be fucking full of them

aye, the land swap thing was what I was getting at when I said the current SJP could probably be reworked as a better green space than the current Leazes Park. Will have a read though, like I say I hadn't kept up to date with all the arguments

And according to OS, the area around the lake in the park is actually 20m higher up so you don't have to stop calling it the cathedral on the hill

Even in the context of everything we consider the City Centre, and even in the context of Newcastle city centre being very compact and small scale, it'd hardly be a gigantic shift like

If you could pick up the whole thing (brick by brick via Beamish, obviously) and move it a mere 400 metres north west so there were no more planning issues around the east stand, would you consider that though?

If they could do Leazes Park though, it is essentially the same place. I know what you're saying about modern vs new design stadiums but they inevitably become anachronisms and millstones eventually, particularly given the development everywhere else in the city taking up more and more space. I love SJP to bits, warts and all, but I wouldn't object to them doing something new in the same venue. I wouldn't actually object to them moving it down to the Elswick riverside around the Arena site, but I'd prefer it to stay where it is.

Almiron

Have not kept up with this thread and I'm sure it's been discussed at length (possibly very recently) already but what's the reason that Leazes Park/Castle Leazes moor doesn't get mentioned? It's been getting more and more run down for years and would seem to be the ideal solution, if the existing SJP could be turned into part of a better green area as part of the development. It's not like you'd need to use the whole site if you planned it carefully so there could still be plenty of regular park park. I guess something to do with protected space/freemen/that sort of thing but just wondered. I know they've tried it before but that was getting on for three decades ago and these lot can probably do a better job of explaining the redevelopment than John Hall could.

Maybe it's like this all the time but because we're never involved we don't find out

You've got some competition mind. Search for 'boglin' and I reckon you'll find it easy enough

I'm quite happy with them pretending they're the twin centres of the UK's footballing and moral worlds in secret tbh

That's the chap, and Tiote's equaliser in the 4-4 is the one I always think of

If only it wasn't that inconvenient 120 miles away

eee, the poor souls

He is. Justin whatsisface used to be decent on Metro as well tbf. I quite like Ando as well if I'm honest, better than Bob Moncur used to be

They're so fucking comically pathetic man like sixth formers who have just discovered the concept of moral high ground but have not the least interest in how they attain their own as long as they do Absolutely pitiful crack, on about the same level as Some Of My Best Marras Are Repressed Saudis Like