Whitley mag

Grimstone was the bloke who tried to broker the takeover last year, I would love to know how much pressure was applied behind the scenes or if it was a token gesture to keep Saudi’s on side. You really couldn’t make this up, as a country where actively trying to attract Saudi investment yet we’re being denied millions worth of investment in the City.

Nights like tonight reinforce why this club is dead. I’ll never knock folk for wanting to attend but if all today’s match goers can muster is ‘Brucey give us a wave’ we’re in serious fucking trouble. Over my 30 odd years I’ve always thought where 2nd to none in terms of support, but I’m starting to doubt this now. How the support hasn’t raised one single chant against the PL makes me question if our support is now just to beaten down, doesn’t give a fuck or are thick as pig shit. I suspect a combination of all 3. It’s certainly not the club I fell in love with in the 80’s and we we’re arguably shitter then. However, the match was an experience made by the support, we used to be edgy as fuck, feared and respected across the land. On the plus side for anyone disillusioned like myself, there are still people fighting for this takeover behind the scenes. I live in hope that a sizeable chunk of our fanbase are just simply not attending St Jame’s at the minute and are waiting for the day new owners arrive.Otherwise the sad reality is our support has now turned to shit just like the rest of club. Letter from protest nufc - To Whom it may concern, We know it's been a while since we've said anything but we wanted to let you know before everyone else, seeing as you took the time to contact us with your letters. We're arranging a fan meeting on Thursday 2nd September at 19:00 at the Tyneside Irish Centre. We'll be giving an update on what we used your letters for and some other things we have in the pipeline, but felt we owed you all an explanation first. Of the hundreds of letters, emails and messages we received only a handful received a response from the Premier League and this was a generic response which didn't answer the plethora of issues and questions that NUFC fans raise. It was amazing reading the range of issues and seeing first hand the passion of our fanbase to act for something they believe in, despite what the fuckwits in the media say (pardon my Geordie). With regard to the letters we realised the Independent Football Ombudsman (IFO) had publicly called for the PL to respond to fans' concerns but hadn't been able to compel them to do so because due process hadn't been followed. Armed with this information we transformed the letters that you all sent into a complaint that we sent to the PL on 6th August 2021. It delivered by registered Royal Mail on 7th August 2021. The PL have 6 weeks per their complaints procedure to respond. We didn't make it particularly easy for them and three weeks later we haven't had anything. We think they've got two options: 1. Respond to our complaint and provide sufficient detail to respond to the concerns raised; or 2. The IFO compel them to respond. Is that it lads, all that for that? Well, not just that... We've written a few other letters, to the IFO and others, as well as making some tentative arrangements for future work, including protests, and we'd like to discuss these with you and others. We'll be putting some stuff out on Twitter and the likes later this week. We'll have a proper agenda to say what our plans are, what we're thinking, how you can get involved and have some time for an open floor. So come along on Thursday, have a pint and a natter, if you can't and you have ideas throw them our way and we'll discuss them. All the best @ProtestNUFC

So in layman’s terms what’s the difference between PAUK and the Abhu Dhabi United Group for example ? Though the ADUG appears to be a private equity company is it not just a charade and basically an off shoot of their public investment fund also ? Surely there must be a way PIF can mirror the City set up and have a fund with autonomy separate from state.

From what I’ve read over last couple of days PIF Aquisition U.K. seems the most likely. They’ve now got a London based operation and is this the company they will be using to make investments ? The real question is though what difference does ‘corporate soul’ make. Does it give the U.K. arm more separation and autonomy from the state ? Could this be used as a vehicle to rejig the deal and pass ODT ? They don’t seem to have a problem with buying stakes in other companies so why the need to make this company a corporate soul ? More questions than answers yet again unfortunately. The PL ODT is so vague in relation to a person with control they can basically do as they please it’s fucking ridiculous.

It does seem to have been created at around the time they invested into McLaren so more likely to be related to that.

PIF have always wanted to come in through the front door. Wishful thinking but maybe they have accepted that’s not possible and gone down the City route.

This would be interesting and change things if true and related to us of course.

John Textor has just paid 87.5 million for an 18% stake in Palace. Sure there is a London premium but this doesn’t make Ashley’s valuation of 340 look unreasonable in my opinion. The trouble is he is clearly a hard man to do business with and ultimately when was the last time a 300 million plus deal was done for a PL club. Staveley is absolutely right there is not many people out there with the finance to buy a PL club and then invest to grow it.

Reubens we’re definitely an investor the 1st time round. Staveley was actually seen at Old Trafford around the time MBS was reportedly interested in the Mancs. There were rumours she’d been unsuccessful in securing funding from Saudi, the fact she got them on board to buy us in the end is testament to her determination and reputation in Middle East.

Staveley’s first attempt was similar to the redball article I’ve just put up. She had Chinese investment as well as the Reubens and a Middle East sovereign fund. No one can criticise the level of investment she has secured the 2nd time round. Quite literally a staggering consortium which has made other clubs arses drop.

I would not be surprised if rumours of this lot sniffing around are true. I guess the rank and file at this point would be happy with any takeover, as far as US investors are concerned they certainly seem the biggest on the look out for a club at minute. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/redball-liverpool-fsg-premier-league-19833062

For those of us still in the positive camp, every crumb n all that.

Absolute crease you are.

It’s an opinion you take it or leave it. In your case I’d be worried if you agreed Fanny.

I give most people the benefit of doubt on here that they are having a bit of a giggle with this Keith thing. However, if you actually think I’m Keith I really can’t take you seriously pal.

Bore off you simpleton.

They are absolutely blocking this takeover on behalf of not only big 6, but probably other clubs to. Piracy is just the convenient excuse they’ve used. Still naive and absolutely nothing mackemesque about me Fanny lad.

Though the PL are the regulator in this case surely the fact they aren’t an independent one, the PL arbitration will not be allowed to take precedence over a U.K. court. In a scenario where Ashley sold the club to US investors for 300 million, he would not have the ability to continue arbitration as new owners wouldn’t continue with it. However, St James holdings would still be 40 million out of pocket. Hopefully the fact it’s the holding company taking the action, it can correctly be argued they’re not bound by PL rule book. Fully believe that PCP would be well aware if another ODT was going through currently with another bidder. Staveley would let us all know and she’d say it’s off. I want these actions to run, we need to find out why we’re being denied this investment and a PL approved US leveraged buyout should not pacify anyone at this point. You can bet your bottom dollar if Jeff Bezos was the US bidder, that US investment would again be contested under some spurious reason that it’s anti competitive due to Amazon. The PL will allow us a takeover on the corrupt 6 terms, they won’t allow us a takeover that threatens them. In no way should any of us accept this, PBP may have been officially scrapped but it’s alive and well in terms of ownership veto from the 6 clubs.

The real fear has to be that the PL are allowed to appeal the CAT ruling. If the PL do appeal on the basis that the club are bound to PL arbitration as agreed by all PL clubs in rule book, this would be an obvious tactic then by all accounts it could be a year to hear appeal. We have to hope that the club have anticipated this by using St James Holdings instead.

got to try and keep those spirit levels high Robster, someday soon I’m still convinced.

Wouldn’t stoke my fire and with Scudamore involved I’d think this whole thing is more corrupt than ever. To be honest I thought Redball had bought a stake in Fenway but apparently not. If Ashley is negotiating with PL at present it’s either to push PIF through or there is a new bidder.

Nee idea what all the fuss is about, it’s still on until Mandy says otherwise. Chill out and and take a trip down memory lane. We’ve got Terry Terry Terry Hibbitt on the wing.....

Well this is the same character who used to whinge every time a thread was closed due to an argument. Fucking laughable.