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Someone just pointed this out to me, hadn’t noticed before. But why is the dotted line from Soyuncu not straight? Using the yellow line, you can see it’s not straight. Probably wouldn’t make a difference, but still bizarre.

Tuesday is a massive game for them now. Will be interesting to see how Leicester play, they’ll inevitably have been celebrating last night but can’t really rotate and have a huge game in two days.

VAR uses five cameras for offsides, it’s impossible to get a definitive perfect angle to conclusively make a decision unless the camera (which is used to draw the lines) is exactly in line. They’re drawing the lines using the best possible can really angle, not the exact one. I’ll go back to the original point, VAR is trying to judge things exact, when it’s impossible to do so due to a variety of reasons (including not getting the exact moment the ball is played and camera angle).

Please explain how it is?

Can you ever remember discussing where someone’s shirt sleeve is on the arm to ascertain if they’re offside? Or any example of someone’s shoulder being on or offside? The guidance around the rules to referees has changed, the shirt sleeve example being one of them. Was it earlier this year they changed the guidance again due to Man City’s disallowed goal (Silva)? How are we changing guidance halfway through a season ffs.

Only because the laws have been fannied around with due to VAR. The previous rule we used to go by was you’re offside if a part of your body you can play the ball with is offside, which usually didn’t include the full arm. I can’t recall ever seeing someone offside due to their shoulder pre-VAR. All of this nonsense around shirt sleeves is due to VAR.

We shouldn’t need to change the rules. They were fine as they were. Just don’t use VAR to draw lines. Don’t use VAR at all.

But VAR isn’t able to freeze the frame with certainty at the moment the ball is struck. You’re measuring something in mm that can’t even be accurate to begin with. The camera is also not in line with the players and at an angle, which will distort the reality. With the naked eye, they look level. If this was pre-VAR, I doubt it’d even be a discussion. I didn’t see a single Leicester player claim offside either. That’s before you can even consider how Chilwell can be offside using a part of the body he’s unable to play the ball with. If we have to deal with VAR, they should look at it without lines and unless it’s clearly offside to the naked eye - the original decision should stand. The absolute draining of celebration yesterday was everything minging that VAR brings. Won’t be long until people can’t celebrate until the game has kicked off again. I’m pretty much already at that point now. Then we get onto Leicester’s goal. At the start of the season was it Liverpool at Spurs who had a very similar one? Firminho(?) handling it accidentally on the halfway line led to a goal disallowed. Farcical. It adds insult to injury that the referee in the final yesterday gave a handball against Chelsea in the first half for something similar, when it was clearly accidental but the hand stopped the ball going past the man. I don’t think Leicester’s should have been disallowed, but there is no consistency with the rules anymore. Handball used to be clear - it has to be deliberate. Now, it seems some are, and some aren’t. And we’ve had rules changed halfway through the season.

Mad how people think Ashley is “on our side”. Absolutely not. He’s on his own side, like normal. The only reason Ashley wants this to go through is for himself. Making himself out to he some kind of saviour when he’s had ample opportunity to sell before. Also - it does a great job of ignoring the lack of progression on the pitch. Yesterday a tinpot club won the FA Cup, 5 years after winning the PL. This season, we’ve watched Bruceball. Not a protest in sight.

Zidane is leaving Real at the end of the season.

Should be 90 minutes of abuse directed at Bruce and Ashley. Reality: “Steve Bruce’s black and white army” during a 3-0 comfortable win, the players and Bruce applauded from the pitch. Part of the problem.

I was just referencing your almost weekly “the referee robbed us” posts in the matchday chat Usually the decision is so obviously not an issue too.

... and hopefully he falls after tangling his leg in part of his trousers and tumbles down many flights of stairs. Landing in a cauldron of scalding soup, as the caterers were passing the foot of the stairs at the exact moment.

The worst thing about it all is the media etc will all claim it as a ‘win’ for VAR. That was a prime example of why I’d rather have slightly more incorrect decisions. Pathetic to bring it back after those celebrations.

I’ll be impressed if you spelt that without Googling.

How is it the correct decision? Impossible to freeze it the moment the ball is struck, measuring mm with a metre stick. Dreadful.

Utter utter shite. Should never be disallowed.

He’s being groomed by the BBC to replace Linekar imo.

Just thought exactly the same. Massive open spaces in front of him and he turns around.

On proper viewing I see it wasn’t. Looked on first sight that he handled it fully.

How was that not disallowed? Perez virtually caught it. Great hit though.

I don’t disagree. But you could flip it and say - why would the PL spend tens of millions defending a position if they know they are on shaky ground? Both sides obviously think they have a case.

The positive folk are so passionate about it, they just can’t believe people can have other opinions Outrageous. It’s difficult because I would like to have a serious conversation about it, but they’re unable to because they fly off the handle and get upset at the first hint of someone not agreeing that the takeover will happen.

I’m not sure what conversation I’m diverting. I was responding to your inaccurate post which said it’s impossible to separate thinking it’ll fail from the PL being right. Since then you’ve just got a bit upset.

You get someone’s point of view wrong and then throw a strop.