RobsonsWonderland

Might be better to agree the contract now before we start paying bigger wages in the future ?

A different level maybe but the sale of Woods and Shelvey last winter was overlooked because a, the fans didn't like them and b, we got ridiculous fees for them.

those sales allowed us to buy Gordan/ balance the books ahead of the summer.

So I understand if we end up flipping a couple of our higher rated players this year even more so if it's a deal that will allow us more flex if a long term player becomes available.

9 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Hope was shielded for a long time because of how he went in on Bruce. He's a really unlikeable, shit-stirring bloke, who just like actual journalists, has a ridiculously inflated opinion about the worth of the work he does.

 

 

 

Obviously it's because Hope is Bruce's long lost son...  And he only popped around his mother's house for the Bacon!

1 hour ago, gbandit said:

Does anyone actually want to stay in KSA other than Gerrard and Neves?

What's the deal with having to pay tax if you leave within two years?

I guess only keeping half of your fortune must be a gutter for you 

I do wonder if Ashworths success at Brighton was due to them being a plucky underdog and flying under the radar.

Our squad could really do with some lower prices gambles but does our perceived riches make that harder to negotiate bargains.

Even another of own Perez or Schar would be great right now...

2 minutes ago, sushimonster85 said:

I do think Sky will start to get restless if there are further Jan windows like this. Viewing figures/general engagement will be way down. 

 

Between commercial partners, and FFP starting to bite even for top 6 sides (Man U and Chelsea both apparently limited this window) I can see a re-jig of the rules in the next couple years. I mean, even just adjusting the losses allowed to account for inflation would be a start. It hasn't changed since it was implemented.

I think the limit should also be reviewed each year based on the most recent window.

 Chelsea, Arsenal and City spending £100 million plus on a single player massively inflated the transfer window.

As much as I dislike them, even Liverpool were priced out of bidding war with Chelsea for Caicedo because of the fee arsenal paid for Rice.

And to be fair he never looked a 100 million player before or after they signed him

1 hour ago, black_n_white said:

Mad that the transfer window is open and barely any club can sign neebody

What it needs is a well run club with rich owners and  deep pockets to start buying players...

Then who knows the club who sold the player would either be able to balance their books or be able to spend money and buy a replacement.

Radical idea but we could even call it a transfer window and everyone could join in.

1 minute ago, The Prophet said:

 

They're making it up on the fly though. If they were public regulator going to judicial review they'd get laughed out of court.

if it is 10 points and only allowed to be fined once... Let's go spend 300 million and take the hit.

But you are right they make it up after the event and we would be relegated no matter what.

33 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Farcical. Everton are guilty of wrongdoing, but the rules are completely unfit for purpose. Farcical.

I'm not sure Everton have a leg to stand on there...

You can lose 135 million over three years but if that all falls in one year, you will have to carry that loss for the next two years reports as well.

You can't just sweep it under the carpet and pretend it's not there after you have been fined once.

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

It was the match that happened immediately after Keegan was appointed

Wasn't that Nachos debut.. 

No wonder Keegan got pissed off

4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Yeah, the PL are much happier with debt than investment.  Which just further proves that the FFP regs are not there to stop clubs going ‘pop’

I know it sounds daft but the penny has just dropped with your explanation! 

If anybody bought any other business and had the funds to grow their company there would be no legal rule to stop them??

Yet our owners are unable to invest their money, which even at the going rate, would drop funds into other clubs and gradually feed money down the leagues (minus agent fees !)

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

I’m not a football manager. 
 

Do you think every good manager in world football would’ve done exactly as Eddie did last night at half time? At 55 minutes? At 2-2? 
 

There’s this idea that there’s nothing Eddie can do tactically or with substitutions in those situations and it makes no sense to me. 
 

Considering we didn’t play any football for 45 minutes.  Fresh legs that can follow runs and be brave alone would’ve been worth bringing on. 

I would agree if only those fresh legs could replace players in the positions we were tired.

Full backs, CB, 2 GKs and kid to bring on.

Hall was really the only viable option left.

Now we can argue the squad depth / ffp is at fault for that but we have lost to the likes of PSG, Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City in the closing minutes because of two key factors.

Mental and physical fatigue of our 13 players and the ability for those teams above to bring on international quality attacking players to give it one last push.

Otherwise I can't see how team tactics work for 90 minutes and we then forget all that in injury time.

30 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

At what point do we say - we aren’t learning and why is that ?

What would you have done differently last night? 

Are we just going to ignore the fact that whilst the 3 CMS might be fluid, none of them have the natural speed and agility to play the game some of you are suggesting.

Then add the fact they are running on empty, the out balls are limited because the winners are also goosed then I think it's harsh to ultra critical that they are not performing at their peak at the moment.

52 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

From the BBC football gossip:

 

 

To be fair both teams must be desperate to stock pile even more CMs in their squad.

I'm sure we will even sell him at half the market price as well

19 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

 

I'm reserving judgement until the start of next season. I'd like to see the details from the 22/23 accounts and then also what we announce leading into next season. It's possible we have a lot of stuff lined up on top of Adidas.

Im sure I remember reading that current sponsors or shirt suppliers could sue for loss of earnings similar to any subsequent sales / profits made.

Which was the reason we couldn't switch from castore last year.

41 minutes ago, Turnbull2000 said:

Hope I'm proved wrong, but it's starting to feel like FFP and FMV means the gap to the breakaway 6 is insurmountable, with ourselves, Villa etc taking a CL slot being the exception rather than norm.

Depends which four end up in champions league..  Chelsea don't get in for the second season or even the next one then their crazy buying will catch up with them.

Liverpool got the benefit of the Saudi league this year.. but that door might already be closing with players  looking for escape routes.

Spurs need to generate sales to progress

I always thought they played in red shirts when we played... But guess they were the home team today so we had to change

This is always the problem with the first big players through the door.. they either have to be patient for others to follow or become part of the solution to allow us to progress in FFP.

I'm hoping he can hold out but maybe the taste of champions league makes him even more frustrated 

Has anyone else googled who Peter Drury supports... West Ham and Watford my arse

I'm just confused with everything.. I miss old school football

It almost like we made no champions league money, increased merchandise sales or a new strip and multiple sponsorship deals in the pipeline ...  Yep we need to sell now!

There was a moment he froze on the ball yesterday.. you could see him thinking what to do and by then two players had closed him down.

13 minutes ago, sixx said:

Something was wrong with the defensive set up from the get go. Elanga had Dan Burn on toast from the first minute and neither our centre backs seemed interested in marking Wood. Wood could actually have scored more - for instance Elanga could  have squared it to him for a tap-in once he had left Burn in the dust and for some reason neither of Schar or Botman picked up Wood. It's like Wood didn't exist to them the whole game. Very strange. 

 

This one rests purely with Howe. We couldn't open up their low block (not a first) and we were at sixes and sevens defending their counters. 

 

Howe needs to work primarily on our defensive set up for the month ahead. If we're gonna continue to use Dubravka he has to develop an understanding with our defenders and do it quickly. The lack of understanding was evident in the Mudryk goal for instance. Would be nice if he came up with the odd clutch save too. Actually it would be nice if he weren't our goalkeeper. 

 

That said I want Murillo. And Gibbs-White. They can have Dubravaka in stead. 

I also think Burn has got it into his head that he needs to attack and overlap to mirror what Tino can do.

I would much prefer he just stayed steady and focused on his own strengths as the above results in him being no good at either.

Massive game, players need a pick me up, fans need a lift.

Hopefully we both feed of each other and get the win and a positive performance.

Come on!!

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