TheBrownBottle

Usually an agreement to buy at an agreed price (so if a player smashes it the selling club can’t raise the price)

It would be interesting to see what the profit turns out to be, given that his signing on fee would be spread over his contract and would be likely to be paid in full when he leaves

Agreed, but it doesn't seem any less bonkers to me. I'm a child of the '90s, ultimately - top Serie A clubs picking up unwanted PL defenders for decent money just seems crazy to me.

This is what is more likely to happen - certainly in terms of transfer fees. Which wouldn't be a bad thing for football generally.

I love BDB, but again we're talking about Italy's most successful club domestically - in what is traditionally the world's best league for defenders. It just feels like a massive, massive drop off. If BDB signed for Real Madrid tomorrow I suspect we'd raise eyebrows - Juve are a club that view themselves to be of that stature.

The fact that he's not better than BDB should be enough to suggest that this isn't a good signing for Juventus. It's Juve we're talking about - signing ok-ish reserve CBs from NUFC feels like a massive fall from grace. Scirea, Ferrara, Chiellini ... Kelly. Hmm.

Link so I can laugh

Most loan deals for decent players come with a hefty fee and often with an obligation to buy - and that's if you even want the player in the first place. There is a reason that Rashford has just gone on loan - besides, Villa sold a reserve CF to KSA for seventy million quid so they have the 'headroom' to pay that waster. I'm struggling to see where Mitchell is to blame for not making signings that we can't currently make. Yes, we bid crazy money for Guehi - which was likely an informed gamble to try to secure a top five position, and would likely have seen a player leave for significant value before 30th June. We don't, unfortunately - the owners have backed the club in the transfer market previously and allowed us to spend the maximum possible. The lack of signings isn't down to a lack of will - we can't sign players at the moment for any significant fee.

Agreed, but that was to avoid punishment through something self-inflicted. I still don’t think it was a coincidence that those with a management contract to manage the club were gone sharpish afterwards.

I’d be astonished if we did. The ownership since day one has shown an intent not only to stay within the rules, but within the spirit of the rules. I’d be surprised if they’re even looking for loopholes. Complete speculation: I suspect that as part of getting past the PL FPPT the owners likely agreed to do exactly the above. ‘Separation’ was obviously bollocks (PIF is a part of the state of KSA).

Completely agree - I was scratching my head when I read it. The replies often made it worse. Can’t believe he’s a lawyer if his communication and written skills are that poor.

Who said 10 years - and what did they say it about?

I’d say there’s more chance that certain parties didn’t completely understand the regs than they bet the house and lost

Gammon for the gammon

Granted, but the entire thread is a badly ordered mess, which is why you’d think that’s what he meant. He explains further:

Tbf this doesn’t feel PSR-driven - more of an ageing player who couldn’t keep his manhood in his trousers issue. Probably should’ve happened last January tbh - his decline was already apparent at that point. He remains the best RB I’ve seen in B&W.

It’s been the case for as long as I can remember - SJP has always had a nervousness to the crowd. It used to be said that at Anfield the Kop sucked the ball into the net. The Gallowgate used to blow it out.

Christ, I wouldn’t

100%. Looked a long way away from a good PL CB or LB when he played for us - and I’m not sure a ‘settling in’ period means as much when you’ve moved from the south of England to the north of England.

‘Fat shaming’ isn’t a pleasant thing, but the lad doesn’t look like a world class athlete at the moment. Despite his football troubles he actually seems like a decent human being - hope he’s alright. I think Villa have taken leave of their senses - though I’ll probably be proved wrong.

I don’t think he’s suggesting that the picture shows the rebuild in fairness

Are you suggesting that a team which has just lost successive home matches to Bournemouth and Fulham aren’t guaranteed the result they need at home to Arsenal?

Yep, he was paid a king’s ransom to sit on our bench for a few months before joining a much bigger club - one of the biggest clubs in the world. A right pisser for him

We needed to sell Minteh and Anderson just to balance the books for last season. The financial situation hasn’t significantly changed this season - with PSR you don’t get to leave everything wrapped up nearly. Sales of players count in that season; purchases of players are spread over the length of their contract. Buying Guehi would’ve meant getting big sales money in before 30th June.

I’d be more concerned if Howe wanted to turn down £20m for him.