Nobby Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Homophobia is funnier than racism though. Sums up some people on here that does Baggio & Nobby disappeared before answering the comparison. some of us work....your answer is there Most of us do. Perhaps now you can answer the question rather than avoiding it? What question? i have answered it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iklgizmo Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 How is sexuality a choice really? you can choose total bullshit, i know a lot of people who would love it if they could change their sexuality. Fair enough you can choose if you wana live a gay lifestyle, but you cant choose if your gay or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 How is sexuality a choice really? you can choose You can choose to pretend to fancy a sex you don't really fancy? Don't think so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucaAltieri Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 How is sexuality a choice really? you can choose Really? So I suppose historically all those gay men who struggled with the stigma chose that path rather than choosing to be straight. Bollocks really when you think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 How is sexuality a choice really? you can choose Deep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Homophobia is funnier than racism though. Sums up some people on here that does Baggio & Nobby disappeared before answering the comparison. some of us work....your answer is there Most of us do. Perhaps now you can answer the question rather than avoiding it? What question? i have answered it this question. the one you haven't answered. Would you class being racist as equally acceptable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 You can choose not to be a homosexual the same way you can choose not to be black if you paint your face white! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 How is sexuality a choice really? you can choose Deep. Aye, he's a reet bender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 How is sexuality a choice really? you can choose Deep. Aye, he's a reet bender. who? Deep? bit racist mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 The argument that he should have just ignored it and got on with it is pretty unrealistic. When it's just a group of team mates having a bit of banter then maybe you could laugh it off but when it's stadiums full of hate-fueled opposing fans screaming homophobic insults at you twice a week, and members of the public yelling gay slurs at you when you're with your family i think it's pretty ridiculous to suggest that the guy should just toughen up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 The argument that he should have just ignored it and got on with it is pretty unrealistic. When it's just a group of team mates having a bit of banter then maybe you could laugh it off but when it's stadiums full of hate-fueled opposing fans screaming homophobic insults at you twice a week, and members of the public yelling gay slurs at you when you're with your family i think it's pretty ridiculous to suggest that the guy should just toughen up. awww go and give him a hug then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 The argument that he should have just ignored it and got on with it is pretty unrealistic. When it's just a group of team mates having a bit of banter then maybe you could laugh it off but when it's stadiums full of hate-fueled opposing fans screaming homophobic insults at you twice a week, and members of the public yelling gay slurs at you when you're with your family i think it's pretty ridiculous to suggest that the guy should just toughen up. awww go and give him a hug then Still not answering the question though are you Nobby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 The argument that he should have just ignored it and got on with it is pretty unrealistic. When it's just a group of team mates having a bit of banter then maybe you could laugh it off but when it's stadiums full of hate-fueled opposing fans screaming homophobic insults at you twice a week, and members of the public yelling gay slurs at you when you're with your family i think it's pretty ridiculous to suggest that the guy should just toughen up. awww go and give him a hug then Nobby blatantly hiding behind what he hopes is a macho persona in an effort to cover up his true feelings. blueyes.gif Let it out dear, it's not like it used to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Someone somewhere said that being gay is nothing to be shameful about, hence Graeme Le Saux shouldn't have reacted at all Well, there is absolutely nothing embarrassing or shameful in playing FM, in learning a bit more about a player via fm just like learning a bit more about any player via paper, mate in the pub, forum posts etc. So, should I just accept the accusations, and just say "Hi GeJon and Baggio the player judge duplets, I am not going to react to your comments directed at me, since I see no wrong in playing FM, and it doesn't matter if I do play FM or not"?? Maybe I should! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Someone somewhere said that being gay is nothing to be shameful about, hence Graeme Le Saux shouldn't have reacted at all Well, there is absolutely nothing embarrassing or shameful in playing FM, in learning a bit more about a player via fm just like learning a bit more about any player via paper, mate in the pub, forum posts etc. So, should I just accept the accusations, and just say "Hi GeJon and Baggio the player judge duplets, I am not going to react to your comments directed at me, since I see no wrong in playing FM, and it doesn't matter if I do play FM or not"?? Maybe I should! go for it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Today, if team mates picked on a player in such a way, and the club did nothing, couldn't the player resign, move to another club, and get his former club to pay out his entire contract on the basis of employment law? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 It goes on every week in football up and down the country, the players with a brain smile and don't let it affect their game. EXACTLY, WELL SAID! Would you class being racist as equally acceptable? Racism is different altogether, the point you seem to be missing is Le Saux isn't even gay. Every week up and down the country football players are trying to wind each other up to get an advantage, Shearer done it to Keane, Materazzi done it to Zidane, by all accounts Bellamy done it to everyone, they want you to bite and I bet Fowler couldn't believe how easy it was to wind Le Saux up. What was your opinion when thousands of people were singing "taxi for rockshots" at Jenas a few years back? Or the "Mido is a Peado" chants? Real homophobia is wrong, however I wouldn't call what the likes of Fowler and Savage are saying to Le Saux as be anything of the sort, they know he touchy about the subject and are just winding him up about it to put him off his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Someone somewhere said that being gay is nothing to be shameful about, hence Graeme Le Saux shouldn't have reacted at all Well, there is absolutely nothing embarrassing or shameful in playing FM, in learning a bit more about a player via fm just like learning a bit more about any player via paper, mate in the pub, forum posts etc. So, should I just accept the accusations, and just say "Hi GeJon and Baggio the player judge duplets, I am not going to react to your comments directed at me, since I see no wrong in playing FM, and it doesn't matter if I do play FM or not"?? Maybe I should! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 It goes on every week in football up and down the country, the players with a brain smile and don't let it affect their game. EXACTLY, WELL SAID! Would you class being racist as equally acceptable? Racism is different altogether, the point you seem to be missing is Le Saux isn't even gay. Every week up and down the country football players are trying to wind each other up to get an advantage, Shearer done it to Keane, Materazzi done it to Zidane, by all accounts Bellamy done it to everyone, they want you to bite and I bet Fowler couldn't believe how easy it was to wind Le Saux up. What was your opinion when thousands of people were singing "taxi for rockshots" at Jenas a few years back? Or the "Mido is a Peado" chants? Real homophobia is wrong, however I wouldn't call what the likes of Fowler and Savage are saying to Le Saux as be anything of the sort, they know he touchy about the subject and are just winding him up about it to put him off his game. Load of crap again. The only person missing the point here is you, as whether Le Saux is gay or not is immaterial to the argument. Your stance that its OK for Fowler to throw around homophobic statements "because Le saux isn't gay" just shows you up to be as ignorant as Fowler himself I'm afraid. Its like saying its OK to tell racist jokes so long as you don't tell them to black people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 It goes on every week in football up and down the country, the players with a brain smile and don't let it affect their game. EXACTLY, WELL SAID! Would you class being racist as equally acceptable? Racism is different altogether, the point you seem to be missing is Le Saux isn't even gay. Every week up and down the country football players are trying to wind each other up to get an advantage, Shearer done it to Keane, Materazzi done it to Zidane, by all accounts Bellamy done it to everyone, they want you to bite and I bet Fowler couldn't believe how easy it was to wind Le Saux up. What was your opinion when thousands of people were singing "taxi for rockshots" at Jenas a few years back? Or the "Mido is a Peado" chants? Real homophobia is wrong, however I wouldn't call what the likes of Fowler and Savage are saying to Le Saux as be anything of the sort, they know he touchy about the subject and are just winding him up about it to put him off his game. Load of crap again. The only person missing the point here is you, as whether Le Saux is gay or not is immaterial to the argument. Your stance that its OK for Fowler to throw around homophobic statements "because Le saux isn't gay" just shows you up to be as ignorant as Fowler himself I'm afraid. Its like saying its OK to tell racist jokes so long as you don't tell them to black people. To start with I didn't say it was ok, I said I didn't find it homophobic and questioned why a straight married man would kick off and make such a big deal over it. Btw you didn't answer this...What was your opinion when thousands of people were singing "taxi for rockshots" at Jenas a few years back? Or the "Mido is a Peado" chants? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 what the hell can we take the piss out of people for ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 It goes on every week in football up and down the country, the players with a brain smile and don't let it affect their game. EXACTLY, WELL SAID! Would you class being racist as equally acceptable? Racism is different altogether, the point you seem to be missing is Le Saux isn't even gay. Every week up and down the country football players are trying to wind each other up to get an advantage, Shearer done it to Keane, Materazzi done it to Zidane, by all accounts Bellamy done it to everyone, they want you to bite and I bet Fowler couldn't believe how easy it was to wind Le Saux up. What was your opinion when thousands of people were singing "taxi for rockshots" at Jenas a few years back? Or the "Mido is a Peado" chants? Real homophobia is wrong, however I wouldn't call what the likes of Fowler and Savage are saying to Le Saux as be anything of the sort, they know he touchy about the subject and are just winding him up about it to put him off his game. Load of crap again. The only person missing the point here is you, as whether Le Saux is gay or not is immaterial to the argument. Your stance that its OK for Fowler to throw around homophobic statements "because Le saux isn't gay" just shows you up to be as ignorant as Fowler himself I'm afraid. Its like saying its OK to tell racist jokes so long as you don't tell them to black people. No your missing the point actually. The piss-taking started when he made the step up in 91, he was young and a bit different so he got some stick. If he'd had any sense about hime he would have laughed and taken the piss back. He didnt, he obviously acted like a cock and hence the problem started. It went on for years and the game with Fowler was in 99, a full eight years later of him being wound up about it. Not sure you had the time period over which this occurred clear in your head. The Fowler incident was the culmination of his twattishness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 It goes on every week in football up and down the country, the players with a brain smile and don't let it affect their game. EXACTLY, WELL SAID! Would you class being racist as equally acceptable? Racism is different altogether, the point you seem to be missing is Le Saux isn't even gay. Every week up and down the country football players are trying to wind each other up to get an advantage, Shearer done it to Keane, Materazzi done it to Zidane, by all accounts Bellamy done it to everyone, they want you to bite and I bet Fowler couldn't believe how easy it was to wind Le Saux up. What was your opinion when thousands of people were singing "taxi for rockshots" at Jenas a few years back? Or the "Mido is a Peado" chants? Real homophobia is wrong, however I wouldn't call what the likes of Fowler and Savage are saying to Le Saux as be anything of the sort, they know he touchy about the subject and are just winding him up about it to put him off his game. Load of crap again. The only person missing the point here is you, as whether Le Saux is gay or not is immaterial to the argument. Your stance that its OK for Fowler to throw around homophobic statements "because Le saux isn't gay" just shows you up to be as ignorant as Fowler himself I'm afraid. Its like saying its OK to tell racist jokes so long as you don't tell them to black people. No your missing the point actually. The piss-taking started when he made the step up in 91, he was young and a bit different so he got some stick. If he'd had any sense about hime he would have laughed and taken the piss back. He didnt, he obviously acted like a cock and hence the problem started. It went on for years and the game with Fowler was in 99, a full eight years later of him being wound up about it. Not sure you had the time period over which this occurred clear in your head. The Fowler incident was the culmination of his twattishness. pat nevin used to take the piss out of le saux because le saux was a fake (acting the bookish,broadsheet arty type and not being able to back it up) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 tbh i do have a bit of sympathy for Le Saux BUT one thing i cant stand is when people try and compare homophobia to racism when there nothing alike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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