sicsfingeredmong Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Couldn't agree more, with the original post that is..................... however he'll pop up with an unlikely double against Sunderland, and with many all will be forgiven again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 i blame milner tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Should just bugger off to Armiena Biefield tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Scapegoat tastic imo Just watched it again this morning. He was poor yes, as was the team in general. Ameobi missed 1 very good chance, didn't attack headers as much as he should have, but won quite a few and was offside far to much. Still did more than the fat, slow, unmobile, and easilly marked Viduka in all fairness. Owen and martins did next to nothing too. (although in all fairness we should start with owen Martins next game imo, Martins needs to start). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 He was poor yes, as was the team in general. That shouldn't be an excuse. Should never play for us except in emergency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boot Boy Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 He had a poor game but he's a useful squad player for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Cant just blame Shola the whole team played bollocks and all he could do was chase a few balls all over the place imo michael owen was worse than Shola, he doesnt give a fuck about newcastle and you can tell... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Scapegoat tastic imo Just watched it again this morning. He was poor yes, as was the team in general. Ameobi missed 1 very good chance, didn't attack headers as much as he should have, but won quite a few and was offside far to much. Still did more than the fat, slow, unmobile, and easilly marked Viduka in all fairness. Owen and martins did next to nothing too. (although in all fairness we should start with owen Martins next game imo, Martins needs to start). but Fat overweight viduka still has this think called talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Scapegoat tastic imo Just watched it again this morning. He was poor yes, as was the team in general. Ameobi missed 1 very good chance, didn't attack headers as much as he should have, but won quite a few and was offside far to much. Still did more than the fat, slow, unmobile, and easilly marked Viduka in all fairness. Owen and martins did next to nothing too. (although in all fairness we should start with owen Martins next game imo, Martins needs to start). i'd just like to point out for the record that i think pretty much all of the team were shite last night, i'm not making ameobi a scapegoat at all, ask me what i think of his play after he scores a hat trick against man u, i can promise you it'll be no pace, no touch, no anticipation, no quality in the air, no skill, no finish, no pass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Scapegoat tastic imo Just watched it again this morning. He was poor yes, as was the team in general. Ameobi missed 1 very good chance, didn't attack headers as much as he should have, but won quite a few and was offside far to much. Still did more than the fat, slow, unmobile, and easilly marked Viduka in all fairness. Owen and martins did next to nothing too. (although in all fairness we should start with owen Martins next game imo, Martins needs to start). but Fat overweight viduka still has this think called talent. True! Viduka is an accomplished finsher and far better at this than Shola without doubt. However Viduka is just so unmobile at least Shola can get to the ball/away from his marker at times. Viduka needs people to put it on a plate for him, as does Owen, one reason why they may not work together. Viduka has been the most disapointing player for me so far as has done precious little (bar one admittedy good goal). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Him playing in his 'best' position exacerbates the Smith situation. We wouldn't play Ameobi on the right wing, would we. Ameobi should be behind Smith in the pecking order for strikers. Agreed.....Smith is getting alot of stick but he hasnt played in his best position yet and he would be more effective than Ameobi,.e ball wont jus bounce off him everytime Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boot Boy Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Him playing in his 'best' position exacerbates the Smith situation. We wouldn't play Ameobi on the right wing, would we. Ameobi should be behind Smith in the pecking order for strikers. Agreed.....Smith is getting alot of stick but he hasnt played in his best position yet and he would be more effective than Ameobi,.e ball wont jus bounce off him everytime I would bet my savings that, all things being equal, Ameobi would score more goals over a season up front than Alan Smith would. Whether you want your strikers to do more than just score goals or not is a different matter but, for me, Ameobi is ahead of Smith to play as a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 While Shola was terrible, he was bound to fail when we tried to play him in a Heskey role. He's hopeless at that job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantu Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Had an absolute shocker, but I still don't think he's as bad as most on here make out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsy Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 He is absolutely rancid. Can't header, can't hold the ball up and has the first touch of a rhino. He was dominated by the two centre halves. I've thought this for years mind, not just on last nights performance - the guy loves a cameo performance but last night, his big chance, he failed miserably, as he has done on countless occassions before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Ameobi and Owen played well together for 45 minutes against Hartlepool in pre-season!! His laid back style doesn't help him though because it always comes across as if he could not be bothered. Every once in a while he has a great game which reminds you that he can play a bit but unfortunately we see it all too rarely. The problem is that all of the strikers need games with each other to work out which combinations work and to get a partnership going and until something clicks, it is going to be a frustrating experience. Despite his youth and lack of experience and depending on how he gets on at Preston, I felt after watching Ameobi last night that maybe Carroll would be better as the 4th choice striker come January as he would keep to doing the simple things and at least he can head a ball. I would also expect him to keep improving and learning whereas I am starting to think Ameobi never will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest eyeball_tickler Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 He is absolutely rancid. Can't header, can't hold the ball up and has the first touch of a rhino. He was dominated by the two centre halves. I've thought this for years mind, not just on last nights performance - the guy loves a cameo performance but last night, his big chance, he failed miserably, as he has done on countless occassions before. thats claude davis and dean leacock, for the record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 While Shola was terrible, he was bound to fail when we tried to play him in a Heskey role. He's hopeless at that job. exactly. i cringed during the pre-match interview when Allardyce said "well, it's the old big-man, small-man combination" to explain his selection of the forwards. he probably thinks cos Ameobi is big and black that he's just like Heskey. Ameobi has always been shit when he plays as support striker, apart from the odd flick on for a shearer goal, because he's not very good when he's outside the box, having to move about, control the ball, bringing others into play etc. he's only ever shone when he has been the main man, playing centrally, with the other striker supporting him, not the other way round. ironically smith looks alright playing as second striker but he's stuck in midfield - fergie needs shot for thinking he could ever play there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I keep forgetting about Smith. I thought he did OK with Owen in that England game so maybe he should be tried up front with Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 It seems incredible that we are leaving out the likes of Martins to play Shola. Big man-little man is all very well but seeing as Ameobi has never been very good in the air it makes the argument redundant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 It seems incredible that we are leaving out the likes of Martins to play Shola. Big man-little man is all very well but seeing as Ameobi has never been very good in the air it makes the argument redundant. and today i believe sam found that out. if he continues to try it i will lambast him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 It seems incredible that we are leaving out the likes of Martins to play Shola. Big man-little man is all very well but seeing as Ameobi has never been very good in the air it makes the argument redundant. and today i believe sam found that out. if he continues to try it i will lambast him. You've been warned, Allardyce. Lambastment is coming your way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Allardyce, fear my wrath Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rosstoon Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 I never like to blame players but last night he was meant to be a centre forward to hold the ball up he did not do that. He should be dropped on Sunday. Smith would do a better job up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 for 6'3 and 13-14 stone he's about a phsyically dominant as a loaf of bread had enough now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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