Dave Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 'jeckle and hide' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 ...hyde and sikh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Manchester City have their own injury problems, and I think we need to be wary of a very attacking 4411 formation. We need a brick in defence to deal with Mpenza, but the midfielder in the hole is one for the more continental defensive players to deal with. thus it is a shared job for Rozehnal and Geremi. I think we are in trouble if we are forced into a Faye-Taylor partnership. Manchester City probably do have the brightest and most talented midfield we have faced so far this season, and today is for a tough and wizened trio of midfielders to deal with the Premier League inexperience of Elano, Johnson and Petrov. Thus, Butt, Geremi and Smith should all play. Right wing is Manchester City's weak point at this moment with Stephen Ireland, so I would persist with N'Zogbia at left back - although I don't rate him defensively, I feel there will be little pressure at that side of the pitch, giving him a licence to get forward. Milner, Martins and Viduka then pick themselves as the only other attacking players available. So do we play 442 or 433? Tough call, but I'd play 433 as Manchester City's midfield seems to be pretty compact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 The key battles for this game could be: Taylor/Faye vs Mpenza Rozehnal and Geremi vs Elano Smith and Beye vs Petrov Butt vs Johnson N'Zogbia and Milner vs Ireland and Corluka Martins vs Richards and Garrido Viduka vs Dunne and Hamann In bold are the battles we may win, and in italics are the battles we could lose out on. I'm going for a 1-1 draw with goals for Johnson and Geremi (penalty) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 One other thing is that our defence like to get the ball down and spend some time on the ball. We've had problems against Derby and West Ham when this wasn't allowed. I think that this time though, they are going to get the time they need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 i had a dream last night that we won 3-1 away to city....Martins 1 and zoggy 1 and viduka 1... Come on Newcastle... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Happy to wait for Emre or Barton to come back playing regular football before even starting to judge where we are creatively. 3 defensive midfielders in a 4-4-2 is never going to be playing exciting football! He doesnt have to do that though. He could easily switch Geremi to the right where he has had a successful career (even in the premiership) and move Zog forward. Emre has had two years to prove himself and done bugger all so I wouldnt hold your breath on that. Barton is a box to box player but i doubt he is the creative answer. Of course its the personnel who are a major problembut Sam isn't the most adventurous. At Derby he should have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Its a tough one, would prefer Zog on the wing but I think he would have done a better job than anyone else in the squad at left back while Enrique wasn't playing. Still think Emre would have given us more than the Butt and Geremi partnership, I thought he did really well when he played with Butt for a while last season. Parker isn't a creative midfielder as you say but he would have added a hell of a lot more going foward from the centre than anything else we have seen. He also would have pounced on the second balls around the area we have had quite a problem with. Quite surprisingly for a central midfielder Barton put in more crosses than most of the players in the league last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Is this on TV? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Sky Sports 1 I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Sky Sports 1 I think. Hmmm, i think i've been stitched up like a kipper. Coincidence i have my son from 1pm onwards today? Fuking bitch. Serves me right for staying in bed all day yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 For me: Given Beye Taylor Rozehnal Jose Enrique Milner Geremi Emre N'Zogbia Martins Viduka Harper Faye Butt Smith Ameobi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Beeb: 1136: Fatboyjohnmulhern predicts a 0-0 draw, but since Newcastle have failed to keep a clean sheet in their 16 games since last playing City is that really realistic? City have scored in every home game this season. In fact, all their home games have ended 1-0. Consistent City. Who would have thought it? The clean sheets against Villa, Barnsley and Wigan must have been a dream then... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Given Beye Taylor Rozehnal Jose Enrique Geremi Smith Butt N'Zogbia Martins Viduka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest salva Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 For Sam: ------------------------------------- Given Beye----------------- Cacapa----------------Rozenhal----------------N'Zogbia --------------Smith---------------Geremi------------------Butt Milner---------------------------------------------------------------------Martins -----------------------------------Viduka Subs: Harper Jose Enrique Taylor Faye Emre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 For Sam: ------------------------------------- Given Beye----------------- Cacapa----------------Rozenhal----------------N'Zogbia --------------Smith---------------Geremi------------------Butt Milner---------------------------------------------------------------------Martins -----------------------------------Viduka Subs: Harper Jose Enrique Taylor Faye Emre Is that confirmed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest salva Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Yes, confirmed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Gutted the Bull isn't starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pie Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Yes, confirmed. Interesting decision on the keeper. Pleased cacapa is back. Might need his positional sense today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Really defensive again, lets hope we can get something on the break. If City go ahead early, we'll struggle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 City team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Yes, confirmed. Interesting decision on the keeper. Pleased cacapa is back. Might need his positional sense today. Harsh on Harper - he was fantastic against West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Four defensive players on the bench... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Yes, confirmed. I find that very hard to believe. Cacapa's not even in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Gutted the Bull isn't starting. The Little Bull is though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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