KaKa Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 What's a shuttler? Badminton player I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 It's an erudite term, in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 What's a shuttler? B2B midfielder basically, I would disagree. Paul Scholes in his 20's was a B2B midfielder. He couldn't play the shuttler role. Didn't have the running ability/stamina. To be a shuttler you must be able to make runs from central to wide (can be with or without the ball, offensive or defensive). This is the best article I can find on it: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1547626-why-claudio-marchisio-is-world-footballs-best-midfield-shuttler Many 3-5-2 formations have a deep-lying midfielder to anchor the system. That can either be a regista (Andrea Pirlo) or a someone less glamorous but just as important (David Pizarro). They're not always the most mobile of defenders, and they're often playmakers first, defenders second. They alone cannot orchestrate proceedings (although some do a fine job of trying it), and to move forward as a team you need players with vertical ability alongside them. This is where the midfield shuttler comes in. Some teams use one, some teams use two, and their job is to run the midfield channels either side of the deep-lying playmaker to drag their team up the field and into attacking positions. They must be capable with and without the ball, and an endless motor is a key attribute. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/744/910/MVPtriumviratesmall_original.jpg?1362058674 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I hope you all learn something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 this was not what the internet was invented for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Scientific or military applications it is not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 But seriously, have none of you ever heard of a midfield "shuttler"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Nope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 You can just post that s*** without demanding apologies and waking away with your chest pumped out bc you've googled something and regurgitated that information like some sage football professor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 You can just post that s*** without demanding apologies and waking away with your chest pumped out bc you've googled something and regurgitated that information like some sage football professor. I make statements and posts that are fair then i'm constantly barraged with criticism. My first point was a simple tactical observation about where ADM fits into PSG. In this case it's easy to prove my point as it's a matter of fact. Of all PSG midfielders ADM is most similar to Matuidi, left footed, midfield engine shuttlers (although in different ways as Mole pointed out). But Matuidi is excellent. Pastore/Lavezzi aren't excellent and ADM can play that position but it's not his best position and for all that money, you would hope he would be in his best position. That's all I said. In comes shite about Matuidi being a DM, Verratti being an attacking player and mocking of the term "shuttler". I didn't even demand my apology this time. It's more gratitude I seek, after imparting my wisdom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ndegwa Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 But seriously, have none of you ever heard of a midfield "shuttler"? I played the game to a pretty high level as a kid/teen and like to think I'm a decent enough student of it these days (without perhaps the same level of arrogant self-assurance as yourself) - but I've never heard of a shuttler. My erudition could use some work oh great one, please teach us the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 TCD.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 As one of my best mates described another football hipster we know, "He's read a book about zonal marking and the mad cunt thinks he's Mourinho". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 But seriously, have none of you ever heard of a midfield "shuttler"? I played the game to a pretty high level as a kid/teen and like to think I'm a decent enough student of it these days (without perhaps the same level of arrogant self-assurance as yourself) - but I've never heard of a shuttler. My erudition could use some work oh great one, please teach us the way. This is why i'm here after all. But seriously - there was no arrogance in my initial post. But when idiots laugh, I shall put them in their place. The post about being correct 90% of the time and others needing to really understand what i'm saying or re-evaluating their own opinion is truly the realest thing i've ever wrote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I don't know where anyone gets the energy to have a passionate argument about the theoretical future makeup of the PSG midfield. That alone makes you football anoraks of a very special kind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 It always amazes me the vitriol TRon has for Williamson while defending Coloccini at every opportunity. It's because Coloccini can actually do one job pretty well. I'm of the opinion you need at least one cb who is an out and out stopper and one who can read the game and cut out the stuff that gets past the stopper. Of course you'd like two cb's who have all these attributes, but as we don't have them, I rate Williamson as a shite stopper and Colo as a decent reader of the game. So I could see Colo working ok with a John Terry type for example, but I couldn't see Williamson working with anyone at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 It always amazes me the vitriol TRon has for Williamson while defending Coloccini at every opportunity. It's because Coloccini can actually do one job pretty well. I'm of the opinion you need at least one cb who is an out and out stopper and one who can read the game and cut out the stuff that gets past the stopper. Of course you'd like two cb's who have all these attributes, but as we don't have them, I rate Williamson as a shite stopper and Colo as a decent reader of the game. So I could see Colo working ok with a John Terry type for example, but I couldn't see Williamson working with anyone at this level. Explanations aside, it's a fairly normal opinion given that Colo is infinitely better than Williamson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I hope you all learn something. Yeah, I learned that it's okay to stick with a player because he can be a decent stopper on a good day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Gratitude for Imparting wisdom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 It always amazes me the vitriol TRon has for Williamson while defending Coloccini at every opportunity. It's because Coloccini can actually do one job pretty well. I'm of the opinion you need at least one cb who is an out and out stopper and one who can read the game and cut out the stuff that gets past the stopper. Of course you'd like two cb's who have all these attributes, but as we don't have them, I rate Williamson as a s**** stopper and Colo as a decent reader of the game. So I could see Colo working ok with a John Terry type for example, but I couldn't see Williamson working with anyone at this level. Explanations aside, it's a fairly normal opinion given that Colo is infinitely better than Williamson. I find it quite easy to despise Williamson. Colo on the other hand has been an excellent servant over the years and naturally his game has dropped off as he has aged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Is it me, or has Colo been shit ever since he tried that overhead kick by the corner flag against Southampton and did his back in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Whenever we've been shite. Colo has been shite. that 16th season, more or less awful. I remember being in the minority with that opinion right up until he said he wanted out, then everyone agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Whenever we've been shite. Colo has been shite. that 16th season, more or less awful. I remember being in the minority with that opinion right up until he said he wanted out, then everyone agreed. I didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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