The College Dropout Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Well he's played 10 thus far. Could do with him at CM. Really doubt that's the plan though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The plan certainly shouldn't be Anita and Colback. Well soon find out if McClaren has any balls or he's just another negative safety first boring idiot like Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Didn't know Billy Whitehurst was his best man. Saw him play and he was a hard nut. Was there when he gave two fingers to the crowd in his last game - not many around like him these days. I was there too, and proud to say I was in that section of the crowd he gave the two fingered salute to. He deserved all the abuse he got, absolute donkey of a player. Had some poor forwards then - Mavis Reilly and Tony Cunningham to name but two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Yep, you could see why Beardsley pissed off when he was surrounded by these cart horses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Of all our "hard" players over the years I can't think of anyone close to Bad Billy. Anyone disagree? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Of all our "hard" players over the years I can't think of anyone close to Bad Billy. Anyone disagree? Heard some stories about McNamee and Ollie Burton and I actually think Kevin Scott was up for it, always first on the scene and protective of his team mates when things got ugly, his problem was he was so polite in play. No one bullied Shearer and apparently if Benny Kristensen could be roused he was mean, Kevin Dillon had a reputataion that it seemed he was trying to live down when he came here, Joey Barton was/is a pussy in comparisson. On the pitch Billy wasn't that hard but he had a reputation, put him in the car park with a Shearer could be interesting, as much because Shearer could take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Of all our "hard" players over the years I can't think of anyone close to Bad Billy. Anyone disagree? Heard some stories about McNamee and Ollie Burton and I actually think Kevin Scott was up for it, always first on the scene and protective of his team mates when things got ugly, his problem was he was so polite in play. No one bullied Shearer and apparently if Benny Kristensen could be roused he was mean, Kevin Dillon had a reputataion that it seemed he was trying to live down when he came here, Joey Barton was/is a pussy in comparisson. On the pitch Billy wasn't that hard but he had a reputation, put him in the car park with a Shearer could be interesting, as much because Shearer could take it. Both McNamee and Burton were hard cases - McNamee more obviously, I once saw him get booked for a clattering foul on Alan Clarke of Leeds and McNamee had only been on the field as a sub for a couple of minutes. He was a decent CB though and intimidating for opposition forwards - he often weighed in with crucial goals too, saw him score against Spurs after just about battering his way into their penalty area after working a 1-2 with Pop Robson(I think) and there was that never-to-be forgotten moment when he swung from the Sunderland cross-bar at Roker Park after scoring there...I think it was a 3-3 draw after we had been behind. Burton was a more cultured defender and he had decent ball skills but he could be very nasty on the quiet....always thought him and Moncur were our best defensive pairing during the Fairs Cup run. Some real hard cases around at that time...Chopper Harris of Chelsea, Peter Storey at Arsenal and of course, Tommy Smith(Liverpool)and Norman Hunter/Jackie Charlton at Leeds. Some of these guys wouldn't last 5 minutes with today's rules/refs.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Billy Whitehurst was just as hard on the pitch, he was a beast and terrified people. You read back on old players that mention the hardest player they have played against and it was always Billy's name that came up. It was him that also destroyed Bracewells leg when he was at Everton. He was out for about 2 years. I do remember a game against Birmingham when the left back was kicking lumps out of Paul Stephenson (only a young kid at the time) and after yet another foul, Whitehurst went over and started talking to Stephenson and pointing at the left back. You could literally see the left backs arse falling off, especialy when Whitehurst worked his way over that side of the pitch. Was glorious to see as a young kid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I started watching football in the 1970s and it was completely different then. Among Leeds players, Gordon McQueen wasn't a standout hardman, but stick this into Youtube for a look at what a bad-tempered game was like back then. In a high-profile game I think you could be looking at a 10-game ban for that now. "Barca vs Leeds 1975 MCQueen sending off" He actually contests the decision! Even nice guys like Keegan had to be up for it, as witnessed by him trading blows with Billy Bremner in the Charity Shield (!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I started watching football in the 1970s and it was completely different then. Among Leeds players, Gordon McQueen wasn't a standout hardman, but stick this into Youtube for a look at what a bad-tempered game was like back then. In a high-profile game I think you could be looking at a 10-game ban for that now. "Barca vs Leeds 1975 MCQueen sending off" He actually contests the decision! Even nice guys like Keegan had to be up for it, as witnessed by him trading blows with Billy Bremner in the Charity Shield (!) Gordon McQueen's daughter scrubs up well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Of all our "hard" players over the years I can't think of anyone close to Bad Billy. Anyone disagree? Kilcline would be up there but Billy Whitehurst used to beat up gypsies in his spare time so I reckon he would take it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Sounds good to me: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-mcclaren-plots-attacking-re-10015882 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 That would suggest Anita's out then based on there being no chance Colback will be dropped. Colback Wijnaldum Sissoko De Jong Thauvin Perez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 i suspect he won't line up quite as attacking as that at west ham mind, not sure our defence is quite ready to be left to their own devices away from home just yet think it'll perez in for mitrovic as the only change then look to attack more in the next game at home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 What's wrong with Cisse like? No chance Cisse won't start for Mitrovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 did you read the article? implies he's looking to bring in perez & or de jong to start scoring goals you're probably right mind, cisse in you'd think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I didn't read it but guessed that is what it said. Still as you say, Cisse will play in Mitrovic's absence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I really want to see Gini drop back but I just don't trust any of his partners, he'd probably get dragged into more defensive work than necessary. One of Anita/Colback having to deal with Payet is a worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Billy Whitehurst is a crackerjack and genuinely as hard as nails. I remember an interview with Alan Hansen - he was asked about who was the player he hated facing, and he said Billy - he was terrified and I bet he wasn't alone! If anyone gets to a talk-in with John Anderson - ask him about the club's trip to the Caribbean, back in the mid 80's! There's also a belter of a story about him jacking off to a porn film, whilst rooming with someone! Duncan Ferugson as we know, can handle himself. Shearer can too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Billy Whitehurst is a crackerjack and genuinely as hard as nails. I remember an interview with Alan Hansen - he was asked about who was the player he hated facing, and he said Billy - he was terrified and I bet he wasn't alone! If anyone gets to a talk-in with John Anderson - ask him about the club's trip to the Caribbean, back in the mid 80's! There's also a belter of a story about him jacking off to a porn film, whilst rooming with someone! Duncan Ferugson as we know, can handle himself. Shearer can too. Ferguson and Shearer were actually really good footballers though. Whitehurst was just a big bastard with two left feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 That would suggest Anita's out then based on there being no chance Colback will be dropped. Colback Wijnaldum Sissoko De Jong Thauvin Perez That would be interesting. I'd like to see how Colback copes as a lone defensive midfielder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I'd like to know why Colback is undroppable. The silly sod rarely gets sent off or small injuries either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 FWIW, Anita has looked more crucial to McClaren's plans than Colback. I'd wager that McClaren knows Colback can't do the job Anita does, in between the centre backs "making things tick". That's why I can't see either being dropped. Anita is a key man in McClaren's mind and Colback, well that's too good to be true. I actually don't mind Colback but he clearly the odd one out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Anita - Gini De Jong Sissoko Perez Thauvin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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