TRon Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. Anita's role is first and foremost the defensive one, making things tick is not the only consideration, otherwise you could play a nice passer in there with no defensive duties at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. We are NUFC not Barca, you crumpet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dabe Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. We are NUFC not Barca, you crumpet. Needs more gegenpress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. We are NUFC not Barca, you crumpet. Needs more gegenpress. TCD also needs to stop pretending to be some super version of Gary Neville on MNF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I prefer the usage of a wide shuttler, a wide 10, a false 9, a #10, a central shuttler, and a quattroporte making things tick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I prefer the usage of a wide shuttler, a wide 10, a false 9, a #10, a central shuttler, and a quattroporte making things tick. you're not on the lovehoney.co.uk forum now you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. aye, righto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. We are NUFC not Barca, you crumpet. "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. Anita's role is first and foremost the defensive one, making things tick is not the only consideration, otherwise you could play a nice passer in there with no defensive duties at all. Anita's crap at the defensive part. We don't need "someone to make us tick" like Anita does.... we aren't Barcelona, Ajax or Swansea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Anita is not crap at the defensive part like. *Queue loads of stats attempting to prove he is* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. We are NUFC not Barca, you crumpet. "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. Anita's role is first and foremost the defensive one, making things tick is not the only consideration, otherwise you could play a nice passer in there with no defensive duties at all. Anita's crap at the defensive part. We don't need "someone to make us tick" like Anita does.... we aren't Barcelona, Ajax or Swansea. If you are going to make a sweeping statement then you should at least give us some detail to back it up. You haven't really said anything there. Yeah, we aren't Barca Ajax or Swansea, why does that make any difference? Anita looks pretty quick in the tackle, and he's done well at full back when he's been asked to do that role, you generally have to be able to defend to do that. If you mean he's not physically strong enough then just say so. Even that is debatable for the role he's expected to play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Because Nemanja Matic would make a great fullback............ what? Different position. Different skill set largely. I don't think he's good enough defensively in a midfield 2 with him sitting only. He doesn't do anything with the ball of use. Unless played as the deepest of a midfield 3, he's average to crap. He doesn't make anything "tick". If we are going to take the approach where our fullbacks push on, a DM comes deep between the CB I entirely hope the player that does so attempts something useful with the ball! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Anita Sissoko Wijnaldum De Jong Thauvin Perez Diamond in the middle, 2 wide lads cutting in towards goal, De Jong making late runs into the box so he's difficult to pick up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. We are NUFC not Barca, you crumpet. "making things tick" = passing sideways? When I think of "making things tick, I think of a Xabi Alonso or Xavi. Anita's role is first and foremost the defensive one, making things tick is not the only consideration, otherwise you could play a nice passer in there with no defensive duties at all. Anita's crap at the defensive part. We don't need "someone to make us tick" like Anita does.... we aren't Barcelona, Ajax or Swansea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 FWIW, Anita has looked more crucial to McClaren's plans than Colback. I'd wager that McClaren knows Colback can't do the job Anita does, in between the centre backs "making things tick". Btw my posts are in response to this. When you think of this you think Alonso, Pirlo.. heck Martinez did it to success with Barry (who has a good range of passing). Not Sideways Anita Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I don't think he's good enough defensively in a midfield 2 with him sitting only. Yes I know you don't think he is, but why not? He doesn't do anything with the ball of use. That's not really true either, he usually passes it quickly to the nearest player. He's no Carrick that's for sure but then quite a few players aren't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Don't think he's physically capable. He's fairly quick but it takes a lot for him to cover ground, if only lateral. The only way he could be successful is if he has 2 other central midfielders near him. And it looks like McClaren likes his 4-4-1-1 with two water carriers. "Controlling the play" I think is the aim with those lads and protecting the defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Because Nemanja Matic would make a great fullback............ what? Different position. Different skill set largely. I don't think he's good enough defensively in a midfield 2 with him sitting only. He doesn't do anything with the ball of use. Unless played as the deepest of a midfield 3, he's average to crap. He doesn't make anything "tick". If we are going to take the approach where our fullbacks push on, a DM comes deep between the CB I entirely hope the player that does so attempts something useful with the ball! Last game of the season against West Ham? He was lauded for how he played in that game. Off the top of my head this season, first game of the season he was the one who put Sissoko through to cut the ball back for Wijnaldums early miss against Southampton when he hit a defender. Its a bit harsh to judge when in 2 of the other 3 we've been down to 10 men early. The ambition going forwards for the side is obviously going to be restricted to a certain degree then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Because Nemanja Matic would make a great fullback............ what? Different position. Different skill set largely. I don't think he's good enough defensively in a midfield 2 with him sitting only. He doesn't do anything with the ball of use. Unless played as the deepest of a midfield 3, he's average to crap. He doesn't make anything "tick". If we are going to take the approach where our fullbacks push on, a DM comes deep between the CB I entirely hope the player that does so attempts something useful with the ball! Last game of the season against West Ham? He was lauded for how he played in that game. Off the top of my head this season, first game of the season he was the one who put Sissoko through to cut the ball back for Wijnaldums early miss against Southampton when he hit a defender. Its a bit harsh to judge when in 2 of the other 3 we've been down to 10 men early. The ambition going forwards for the side is obviously going to be restricted to a certain degree then. TCD doesn't watch us play man, he can't if he doesn't think Anita makes us tick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 BUT WHERE DOES THE ENGANCHE FIT IN? Yi cannit hav a mediocampista situation withoot an enganche! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 What exactly does "make us tick" mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Where is the Chronicle getting this that De Jong will start? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Where is the Chronicle getting this that De Jong will start? sauces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Don't think he's physically capable. He's fairly quick but it takes a lot for him to cover ground, if only lateral. The only way he could be successful is if he has 2 other central midfielders near him. And it looks like McClaren likes his 4-4-1-1 with two water carriers. "Controlling the play" I think is the aim with those lads and protecting the defence. Two water carriers might be how McClaren wants to go, but it didn't work against Swansea and it hasn't seen us dominate any of the midfield battles we've played so far. My question is whether either Anita or Colback are capable of doing the defensive midfielder role by themselves. Until we see them given that responsibility we won't really know the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Don't think he's physically capable. He's fairly quick but it takes a lot for him to cover ground, if only lateral. The only way he could be successful is if he has 2 other central midfielders near him. And it looks like McClaren likes his 4-4-1-1 with two water carriers. "Controlling the play" I think is the aim with those lads and protecting the defence. Not sure what the statement 'He's fairly quick but it takes a lot for him to cover ground' means tbh. He's quick enough to do it and he's not blowing out of his arse after 30 minutes so i don't really get what you said there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Don't think he's physically capable. He's fairly quick but it takes a lot for him to cover ground, if only lateral. The only way he could be successful is if he has 2 other central midfielders near him. And it looks like McClaren likes his 4-4-1-1 with two water carriers. "Controlling the play" I think is the aim with those lads and protecting the defence. Not sure what the statement 'He's fairly quick but it takes a lot for him to cover ground' means tbh. He's quick enough to do it and he's not blowing out of his arse after 30 minutes so i don't really get what you said there. A fast runner can cover ground well up and down. Straight sprints to be precise. Anita is good at that. However, footballers often move laterally. Or just plain jog. For whatever reason, Anita isn't very good at this. You rarely feel like Anita is dominating an area of the pitch. So when a team is passing the ball around midfield, it takes a lot for him to keep up with play. He's fine when he's sprinting. But just moving around, he doesn't cover the ground well. I think Wilshere suffers from a similar thing. He's no slouch but it takes a fair bit for him to get around a pitch. Someone like Ramsey is no quicker but is able to cover ground easier. Apparently, I sound pretentious. But i'm talking about a technicality here. Just because you can run fast, doesn't mean you get around the pitch well to force your presence. Makelele was short, not lightening but somehow managed to fulfill the action. What exactly does "make us tick" mean? I would love to know this. I would also like 1 example of when Anita's passing has "made us tick". I get shit for saying "gegenpress" which has explicit actions. "Make us tick" is a lazy cliche that doesn't mean anything. Especially when used for Anita. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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