merlin Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Williamson is so far out of his depth in the PL that someone should throw him a lifebelt with 'Championship bottom 6' written on it. He cannot read a game at this level, lacks decent pace and is woeful in the air for a big CD. He needs to go and quickly, or rather, we need to replace him with a much better player quickly - he could scrape through some games when Colo was a fitter and faster partner who bailed him out but he cannot stand on his own merits. An ENORMOUS weak link in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Have some of you tell it, Mike Williamson has never had a good game at this level. That's exaggerating too far the other way. You are the guy though who thinks Di Maria and Matuidi were separated at birth so don't be surprised at a little incoming People like you intentionally misread my posts. I said out of Motta, Verratti & Matuidi - ADM is most similar to Matuidi. Central to left shuttlers. If you disagree. Please refer to the links I used in the other thread to support my argument and promptly return with an apology. Yah, sure! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Williamson is so far out of his depth in the PL that someone should throw him a lifebelt with 'Championship bottom 6' written on it. He cannot read a game at this level, lacks decent pace and is woeful in the air for a big CD. He needs to go and quickly, or rather, we need to replace him with a much better player quickly - he could scrape through some games when Colo was a fitter and faster partner who bailed him out but he cannot stand on his own merits. An ENORMOUS weak link in the side. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if he left next season and signed for Gateshead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 On a good day Williamson is a decent PL stopper. Asking him to do any more than that is asking too much of his already very limited ability imo. Hope he's sold nonetheless. A good PL stopper wouldn't be left floundering every time a player runs at him or get beat by 5'9 forwards like N'Zogbia in the air. Forget about the passing, even as a stopper he's a nervous train wreck when he's put under pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 On a good day Williamson is a decent PL stopper. Asking him to do any more than that is asking too much of his already very limited ability imo. Hope he's sold nonetheless. A good PL stopper wouldn't be left floundering every time a player runs at him or get beat by 5'9 forwards like N'Zogbia in the air. Forget about the passing, even as a stopper he's a nervous train wreck when he's put under pressure. Well tbf he said on a good day he was a decent PL stopper which isn't inaccurate but his good days are few and far between Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Triggs ability to read and comprehend marks him as one of the most intelligent posters on the board. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Is this thread still about McClaren? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Hopefully one day it will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Positionally Williamson is the worst CB i've seen at Premier League level (that i can recall anyway). The sheer number of goals we concede from him being in the wrong place at the wrong time is staggering. The fact that positional play is mostly coached rather than instinctive suggests he's incapable of grasping how to defend at this level. If he made up for his abysmal positional play with something else eg. leadership qualities, heading ability, goal threat etc. you could probably cut him some slack but he's not very good at any of those things either. I'm sure he's had one or two games where he played alright but they are definitely an exception to the norm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Don't add fuel to the fire, mate. Or in this case, don't give that daft c*** a chance to bleat on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Triggs ability to read and comprehend marks him as one of the most intelligent posters on the board. What's the point in saying someone can be a decent PL stopper on a good day? You could say that about Titus Bramble or just about anyone. He's either a good PL stopper or he isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Triggs ability to read and comprehend marks him as one of the most intelligent posters on the board. I'm class at reading, me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Triggs ability to read and comprehend marks him as one of the most intelligent posters on the board. What's the point in saying someone can be a decent PL stopper on a good day? You could say that about Titus Bramble or just about anyone. He's either a good PL stopper or he isn't. In the case that if he has to play, let's try and make it a good day by letting him play within his limitations. I've already said this. Titus Bramble was actually a very good PL CB on a good day (or for 89 minutes). Quick, strong, brilliant in the air, positionally decent. It was the massive howlers that were the problem. Massive, massive brain farts. But on a good day he would look like a top player. Can never say the same for Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 It always amazes me the vitriol TRon has for Williamson while defending Coloccini at every opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 What's a shuttler? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 What's a shuttler? B2B midfielder basically, TCD is trying to make himself seem intelligent. Objective failed sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 What's a shuttler? Badminton player I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 It's an erudite term, in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 What's a shuttler? B2B midfielder basically, I would disagree. Paul Scholes in his 20's was a B2B midfielder. He couldn't play the shuttler role. Didn't have the running ability/stamina. To be a shuttler you must be able to make runs from central to wide (can be with or without the ball, offensive or defensive). This is the best article I can find on it: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1547626-why-claudio-marchisio-is-world-footballs-best-midfield-shuttler Many 3-5-2 formations have a deep-lying midfielder to anchor the system. That can either be a regista (Andrea Pirlo) or a someone less glamorous but just as important (David Pizarro). They're not always the most mobile of defenders, and they're often playmakers first, defenders second. They alone cannot orchestrate proceedings (although some do a fine job of trying it), and to move forward as a team you need players with vertical ability alongside them. This is where the midfield shuttler comes in. Some teams use one, some teams use two, and their job is to run the midfield channels either side of the deep-lying playmaker to drag their team up the field and into attacking positions. They must be capable with and without the ball, and an endless motor is a key attribute. http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/744/910/MVPtriumviratesmall_original.jpg?1362058674 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I hope you all learn something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 this was not what the internet was invented for Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Scientific or military applications it is not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 But seriously, have none of you ever heard of a midfield "shuttler"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Nope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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