Wallace Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Aye, whilst players aren't exempt from criticism...it's the manager's sole job to motivate the players. Both tactical motivation and mental motivation. If he can't do that then what's the point in having a manger. Agree and I can't see how comments like that will help in motivating the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Definitely Craig Hope. Used to work at NUFC and has been very critical in the Mail recently. Good on him for confronting it, Lee Ryder would never dare 'Which one of you is Hope?' 'Well it's not fucking you, Steve'. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Definitely Craig Hope. Used to work at NUFC and has been very critical in the Mail recently. Good on him for confronting it, Lee Ryder would never dare 'Which one of you is Hope?' 'Well it's not fucking you, Steve'. Class! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The team for most of the season has included the worst CB and CM pairing in the league, taking into account inexperience, age, and generally being fucking crap. McClaren has made absolutely no improvement to any of the turd he inherited, but let's not act like those players he inherited are any good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The team for most of the season has included the worst CB and CM pairing in the league, taking into account inexperience, age, and generally being fucking crap. McClaren has made absolutely no improvement to any of the turd he inherited, but let's not act like those players he inherited are any good. Let's not act like any of the players are "any good". Howay man ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Badly worded, obviously we have a handful of talented players but the dross (Gouffran, Colo, Anita, Colback, Obertan, Cisse, etc) has been dross since before SMC got here, he just hasn't been able to improve any of the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The team for most of the season has included the worst CB and CM pairing in the league, taking into account inexperience, age, and generally being fucking crap. McClaren has made absolutely no improvement to any of the turd he inherited, but let's not act like those players he inherited are any good. Let's not act like any of the players are "any good". Howay man ffs. Smh, no one said they were world beaters but 2nd worst set of players in the league? Do you think Leicester have the best players in the league? No they aren't blameless but there's teams that prove a decent manager can make a team much more than the sum of its parts and shite managers make them less than that same sum, us being case and point, we are better than 19th man for man, McClaren has no excuse for having us there other than his own ineptitude ffs. Edit: having read your post above, you're right, we do have a lot of dross in our ranks but no one forces him to play them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The team for most of the season has included the worst CB and CM pairing in the league, taking into account inexperience, age, and generally being fucking crap. McClaren has made absolutely no improvement to any of the turd he inherited, but let's not act like those players he inherited are any good. Let's not act like any of the players are "any good". Howay man ffs. Smh, no one said they were world beaters but 2nd worst set of players in the league? Do you think Leicester have the best players in the league? No they aren't blameless but there's teams that prove a decent manager can make a team much more than the sum of its parts and shite managers make them less than that same sum, us being case and point, we are better than 19th man for man, McClaren has no excuse for having us there other than his own ineptitude ffs. Exactly. I remember sitting with a lad during the Pardew death match where he'd blame the players every week. He saw the light right near the end. Players at lots of struggling clubs improve instantly when they get rid of shit managers, and we've had shit managers for a very long time now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The problems we have now are down to years of boardroom mismanagement, and that includes listening to Alan Cuntfeatures to sell our best players. To hold McClaren wholly responsible would be like blaming Villa's current predicament on Sherwood and Garde, when they are only the tip of the iceberg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Genuinely don't think our squad is that good, tbh. There's a few decent players in there, surrounded by a large amount of shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The problems we have now are down to years of boardroom mismanagement, and that includes listening to Alan Cuntfeatures to sell our best players. To hold McClaren wholly responsible would be like blaming Villa's current predicament on Sherwood and Garde, when they are only the tip of the iceberg. For certain the current malaise we find ourselves in is through years of neglect from the top down, replacing shit manager with shit manager, Hughton excused, but massive strides could be taken into rebuilding a team to be proud of by getting the right man in the Managers position. No McClaren isn't the sole man to blame, but he's not the answer either, it's just a continuation of the same shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Every journo should be having a go at McClaren, asking him to explain himself and should all find themselves banned by the club - that'll send another message. We're 2nd bottom and these fucking cunts within the club are all Iraqi Military Commander "all is okay" about this shit. It's not okay, we're going to get relegated as things currently stand unless we outdo 2 clubs who are tied with us. We win or draw the same amount as them we go down. FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 the bloody media man. why has no one asked the cunt why gouffran and riviere were preferred to perez, or why we went to stoke to grind out a draw when we should have gone for 3 points. no point asking if he thinks he's gonna be sacked, or letting him behind his perceived bad luck or injuries. - he needs to be called out and pulled apart over his decision making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Badly worded, obviously we have a handful of talented players but the dross (Gouffran, Colo, Anita, Colback, Obertan, Cisse, etc) has been dross since before SMC got here, he just hasn't been able to improve any of the players. That was part of his remit when he was given the job - to improve players. Ignoring the dross, have any noticeably improved? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 the bloody media man. why has no one asked the c*** why gouffran and riviere were preferred to perez, or why we went to stoke to grind out a draw when we should have gone for 3 points. no point asking if he thinks he's gonna be sacked, or letting him behind his perceived bad luck or injuries. - he needs to be called out and pulled apart over his decision making. And how the fuck the cunt Colback has just walked back into the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Badly worded, obviously we have a handful of talented players but the dross (Gouffran, Colo, Anita, Colback, Obertan, Cisse, etc) has been dross since before SMC got here, he just hasn't been able to improve any of the players. That was part of his remit when he was given the job - to improve players. Ignoring the dross, have any noticeably improved? Nope, not even one. It's been the biggest disappointment of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yep - need to be calling him out on his stupid selection and tactics and inability to sign a defense (he's on the board so he should fucking bloody answer that) or why has he got Saivet sitting bench for Colback who has been part of the team that's been blowing chunks all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yep - need to be calling him out on his stupid selection and tactics and inability to sign a defense (he's on the board so he should f***ing bloody answer that) or why has he got Saivet sitting bench for Colback who has been part of the team that's been blowing chunks all season. saivet's another confusing cock up. pay decent money for a type of player we need because colbacks been ineffective and then refuse to play him, and just continuing with colback. saivet looked better in the tackle and on the ball ine the few minutes he's been given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yep - need to be calling him out on his stupid selection and tactics and inability to sign a defense (he's on the board so he should f***ing bloody answer that) or why has he got Saivet sitting bench for Colback who has been part of the team that's been blowing chunks all season. saivet's another confusing cock up. pay decent money for a type of player we need because colbacks been ineffective and then refuse to play him, and just continuing with colback. saivet looked better in the tackle and on the ball ine the few minutes he's been given. We signed him because we were trying to sell Tiote. McClaren has openly admitted as much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3476997/Newcastle-United-boss-Steve-McClaren-unedifying-bust-Sportsmail-s-Craig-Hope-heated-press-conference.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3476997/Newcastle-United-boss-Steve-McClaren-unedifying-bust-Sportsmail-s-Craig-Hope-heated-press-conference.html wasting their breath and probably creates sympathy for him in some strange quarters. just be nice and polite. ask him about the game plan. ask him about perez. ask him about him being too afraid to drop either sissoko or gini away from home. etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Nah fuck it, it's about time someone called out the cunts running this shit. Although it should have happened with Pardew more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The comments on the article man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Genuinely don't think our squad is that good, tbh. There's a few decent players in there, surrounded by a large amount of shite. Define "that good". Give our squad a league position. Is that number 20, 19 or 18? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Should have been challenged abut the dross he's overseeing months ago. If you're a PL manager and the results and performances have been as poor as ours have been then he's absolutely fair game. It's fucking March and the only team below us are going to go down as one of the worst in PL history. He's failed miserably and deserves any criticism coming his way, he coaches them, he picks the team, he makes the subs and he chooses formations and tactics and it's been fucking dire. Other managers have been sacked for under-performing and he's the worst of the lot, it's been fucking wank. Just bin the cunt ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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