Dr Venkman Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 give him time for fucks sake, anyone bothered about smith playing 90 minutes every week should be looking to get rid of the owner and not the manager i'm suggesting he, and whoever is with him, turn up with smith on the back of his shirt every week, is it any coincidence that allardyce shoe horns him into any formation he can? i dont know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 give him time for fucks sake, anyone bothered about smith playing 90 minutes every week should be looking to get rid of the owner and not the manager Give him time for what? How long does it take for him to realise that his impact on the team through his tactics and constant pissing about with team selection is causing more problems than they solve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 give him time for fucks sake, anyone bothered about smith playing 90 minutes every week should be looking to get rid of the owner and not the manager i'm suggesting he, and whoever is with him, turn up with smith on the back of his shirt every week, is it any coincidence that allardyce shoe horns him into any formation he can? i dont know Allardyce is the one who convinced the chairman to part with substantial money for him. It's in Sam's own interests that Alan Smith plays and performs well as he is a major Allardyce signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 give him time for fucks sake, anyone bothered about smith playing 90 minutes every week should be looking to get rid of the owner and not the manager i'm suggesting he, and whoever is with him, turn up with smith on the back of his shirt every week, is it any coincidence that allardyce shoe horns him into any formation he can? i dont know OK, so Allardyce is spineless and hasn't got the bottle to pick his own team? I thought Smith had been dropped this season and how does that impact on all of the other baffling things that Allardyce does? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Barring a serious threat of relegation, he must at least be given the rest of this season and the beginning of next. When Allardyce arrived, the club possessed deep-rooted problems from previous regimes which simply weren't going to be fixed overnight. However disillusioning recent performances have been, i still have faith he will have learnt something from each, and is ultimately the man to turn the club around. And then end up sacking another manager in September, the worst possible time of the year. I say that because if we do finish in the bottom half this season i don't believe he should be sacked. If, however, after three transfer windows he still can't produce a coherent team capable of playing effective football, I wouldn't be inclined to give him another entire season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 give him time for fucks sake, anyone bothered about smith playing 90 minutes every week should be looking to get rid of the owner and not the manager Give him time for what? How long does it take for him to realise that his impact on the team through his tactics and constant pissing about with team selection is causing more problems than they solve? give him time to get a bigger group of players that are his signings, time to drill the players into the formations he wants to use, just, you know, some time, to turn things around, i dont like it either mate, that was shit today, but just give the bloke a chance regarding the smith situation, yeah, maybe he hasnt got the balls to pick his own team, i dont know, i just find it too much of a coincidence that on the one hand, sam has a good record in this league, which surely must corrolate with the ability to see who should be playing where, and yet, smith has done nothing all season playing either wide or in centre mid and he continues to be played.....and the guy that pays everyones wages, AND ALL HIS MINDERS, wear smith shirts every week, he was on the front cover of the nufc annual for fucks sake! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Give him more time? Fuck right off. Is it going to take relegation before some people accept he is the wrong man for the job.. Watch the match today? Would have been about 8 fucking 0 was it not for Beye and Given. The tactics, the subs, the fact that we couldn't string 2 passes together without hoofing it. Other than Smith's shot we didn't threaten once. Fucking abysmal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 sick of sacking people. just bring someone else in and make everyone ignore what sam says Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Give him more time? Fuck right off. Is it going to take relegation before some people accept he is the wrong man for the job.. Watch the match today? Would have been about 8 fucking 0 was it not for Beye and Given. The tactics, the subs, the fact that we couldn't string 2 passes together without hoofing it. Other than Smith's shot we didn't threaten once. Fucking abysmal. You have nailed your colours to the mast. I hope you're proved wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_NUFC Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 I've been advocating giving him a chance, but my patience is wearing thin. I wonder if he's realised that he can't do here what he did at Bolton, and now he doesn't know what to do. I certainly think that the players don't know whether they're coming or going as the formation seems to change so often, not just game to game, but within games as well. What formation were we supposed to be playing today? I couldn't tell. If he doesn't know what to do about it, then we should be looking elsewhere. I don't think we should sack him without a plan - as has happened here so often before, but if we have someone in mind, and he's out of his depth, get rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Give him more time? f*** right off. Is it going to take relegation before some people accept he is the wrong man for the job.. Watch the match today? Would have been about 8 f****** 0 was it not for Beye and Given. The tactics, the subs, the fact that we couldn't string 2 passes together without hoofing it. Other than Smith's shot we didn't threaten once. f****** abysmal. what's your definiton of 'the job' ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Unless we are in serious danger of relegation I say keep him. If we sacked him now there is no one to take over and the season is pretty much a waste atm so it won't make any sense to bring a new man just for the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 I actually wouldn't care if we sacked him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 give him time for fucks sake, anyone bothered about smith playing 90 minutes every week should be looking to get rid of the owner and not the manager Give him time for what? How long does it take for him to realise that his impact on the team through his tactics and constant pissing about with team selection is causing more problems than they solve? Ok then mick, what's your (and all the rest of you saying get rid) solution then? It's a piece of piss to say: "sack the manager", but that in itself solves precisely fuck all. You need to be able to bring in someone better and give them what they need to be successful. Who and how, do you suggest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 give him time for fucks sake, anyone bothered about smith playing 90 minutes every week should be looking to get rid of the owner and not the manager Give him time for what? How long does it take for him to realise that his impact on the team through his tactics and constant pissing about with team selection is causing more problems than they solve? Ok then mick, what's your (and all the rest of you saying get rid) solution then? It's a piece of piss to say: "sack the manager", but that in itself solves precisely f*** all. You need to be able to bring in someone better and give them what they need to be successful. Who and how, do you suggest? I think there's a huge issue that this board didn't appoint him. There's bound to be unrest until they appoint their own man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 I think keep him until the end of the season and then assess the situation. :parky: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Give him more time? f*** right off. Is it going to take relegation before some people accept he is the wrong man for the job.. Watch the match today? Would have been about 8 f****** 0 was it not for Beye and Given. The tactics, the subs, the fact that we couldn't string 2 passes together without hoofing it. Other than Smith's shot we didn't threaten once. f****** abysmal. what's your definiton of 'the job' ? Someone with an ounce of tactical knowledge, logic and understanding of the game. Not some fat headed prick who'll just sit there trying to look great with a head set on. Barton on for Emre, Carr on for Enrique when it's 3-0 with 10 minutes left.. all you can do is laugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 give him time for fucks sake, anyone bothered about smith playing 90 minutes every week should be looking to get rid of the owner and not the manager Give him time for what? How long does it take for him to realise that his impact on the team through his tactics and constant pissing about with team selection is causing more problems than they solve? Ok then mick, what's your (and all the rest of you saying get rid) solution then? It's a piece of piss to say: "sack the manager", but that in itself solves precisely f*** all. You need to be able to bring in someone better and give them what they need to be successful. Who and how, do you suggest? I think there's a huge issue that this board didn't appoint him. There's bound to be unrest until they appoint their own man. That's a point, but do you think that's all that's wrong? For it to be, there needs to be some serious interference from the board into his running of the team going on behind the scenes. If that's the case then that's really worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Give him more time? f*** right off. Is it going to take relegation before some people accept he is the wrong man for the job.. Watch the match today? Would have been about 8 f****** 0 was it not for Beye and Given. The tactics, the subs, the fact that we couldn't string 2 passes together without hoofing it. Other than Smith's shot we didn't threaten once. f****** abysmal. what's your definiton of 'the job' ? Someone with an ounce of tactical knowledge, logic and understanding of the game. Not some fat headed prick who'll just sit there trying to look great with a head set on. Barton on for Emre, Carr on for Enrique when it's 3-0 with 10 minutes left.. all you can do is laugh. you didnt answer my question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 "The job" = manager of Newcastle United, was it really that hard to figure out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edd Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Give him more time? f*** right off. Is it going to take relegation before some people accept he is the wrong man for the job.. Watch the match today? Would have been about 8 f****** 0 was it not for Beye and Given. The tactics, the subs, the fact that we couldn't string 2 passes together without hoofing it. Other than Smith's shot we didn't threaten once. f****** abysmal. what's your definiton of 'the job' ? Someone with an ounce of tactical knowledge, logic and understanding of the game. Not some fat headed prick who'll just sit there trying to look great with a head set on. Barton on for Emre, Carr on for Enrique when it's 3-0 with 10 minutes left.. all you can do is laugh. Aye imagine giving two players returning from long term injuries some much needed match pratice when the game was effectively over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 "The job" = manager of Newcastle United, was it really that hard to figure out? i'll just give up then, good luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 DO NOT SACK! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Saint Andy Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 yeah give him time. although i hate the long ball stuff. we'll see what happens over this season and next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 DO NOT SACK! yeah give him time. although i hate the long ball stuff. we'll see what happens over this season and next. Good work, chaps. Let's cross our fingers and hope he can learn from his mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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