Guest nufc 4 life Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Right, i thought i'd start a thread on the situation regarding N'zogbia, Enrique and Milner and were they are being played. I believe and i'm sure others do too, that BS is making a huge tactical error by playing N'zogbia at LB and Milner at LM whilst leaving Enrique on the bench. Where is the sense in playing a naturally right-footed, right-sided player on the LW and a natural attacking LW with very good pace and exceptionally good dribbling (although not quite the finished article in his crossing ability) at LB were he seems to be uncomfortable and physically not very capable? Surely it would make more sense to play Milner at RM were he is most comfortable playing and were he doesnt continuosly have to drop his shoulder and move the ball to his right foot before getting his cross in and N'zobia at LM his natural position, were his direct running and normally quite decent crossing has caused many a defence in previous seasons major problems. Then put our only true natural LB Enrique (i'm not including Babayaro!) actually in that position instead of on the bench. Enrique has looked a hell of a lot stronger than N'zogbia has at LB. Imagine this... Milner in his proper position, N'zogbia in his proper position and Enrique actually on the pitch in his proper position. This would leave us with a threat on the right with the pace of Beye and the dribbling and crossing ability of Milner and the pace of N'zogbia and the natural ability that Enrique obviously has to stop the oppositions wingers playing whilst also possessing the ability to split defences open with his left-peg. Now were does this leave Geremi well TBH i don't really care, but i think the fact he is our captain is clouding BS judgment, but this is an argument that is already being discussed in the "can we drop our captain" thread. So anyway ive put in a poll, so what do you guys think, is BS playing the right tactics using the formation he is using or is my idea (albeit pretty obvious) a more appropriate option? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Enrique LB, Zog LW and Milner RW. Problem solved. Atleast until Duff comes back anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 we must do what you said! milner rw, charlie lw, enrique lb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nufc 4 life Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 exactly pretty much sums my post up, but there you go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Obviously, Enrique's not so hot at the minute in training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Not sure anyone will disagree with the OP tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 It seems obvious.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Obviously, Enrique's not so hot at the minute in training. Maybe Allardyce isn't happy with his fitness. Looked a bit porky when he arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nufc 4 life Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Obviously, Enrique's not so hot at the minute in training. but N'zogbia made a crucial error tonight that led to a goal, he doesn't look at all comfortable at LB and he will continue to make mistakes there, becuase that is not his natural position and he doesn't get to use his natural instinct and attack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_NUFC Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Adebayor's goal was because Charlie made an error at left back. Not Zog's fault - he's not an LB. And yet we have an LB, Enrique on the bench, while we're crying out for some more width. Milner and the Zog on the wings and Enrique at LB - it's not hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nufc 4 life Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Not sure anyone will disagree with the OP tbh. 2 peope already have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Obviously, Enrique's not so hot at the minute in training. Maybe Allardyce isn't happy with his fitness. Looked a bit porky when he arrived. Might well be. Obviously isn't happy enough with his progress that he feels comfortable with him starting matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesD Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 the lack of a right side for us has been a problem in recent games. When viduka was on I remember him recieving the ball about 40 yards from goal. He looked up to play a pass to the right hand side but there was no one there. The team is very unbalanced right now, and i'd like to see that change, pretty much by doing what people in this thread have suggested. Also milner being able to play early crosses in would be nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Enrique will be a very good player for us and i can see Nzog eventually being benched if both Enrique and Duff hit form. I would stick as we are for the time being, especially against strong opponents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Adebayor's goal was because Charlie made an error at left back. Not Zog's fault - he's not an LB. And yet we have an LB, Enrique on the bench, while we're crying out for some more width. Milner and the Zog on the wings and Enrique at LB - it's not hard. It's clear N'Zogbia is best on the left wing but you can't defend the pass he made for Arsenal's first goal, just because he's a winger he isn't capable of clipping a ball down the line? nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nufc 4 life Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 that lack of a right side for us has been a problem in recent games. When viduka was on I remember him recieving the ball about 40 yards from goal. He looked up to play a pass to the right hand side but there was no one there. The team is very inbalanced right now, and i'd like to see that change, pretty much by doing what people in this thread have suggested. Also milner being able to play early crosses in would be nice. this, all of our play went down the left today... i was going to mention Geremi's lack of an attacking mind in my OP, but couldn't be bothered, Geremi is not a RM end of so why isn't milner playing there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I think it's more that Sam wants three CM and don't want to drop either Milner or Zoggy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nufc 4 life Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Enrique will be a very good player for us and i can see Nzog eventually being benched if both Enrique and Duff hit form. I would stick as we are for the time being, especially against strong opponents. sticking to our current tactis cost us a goal tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Adebayor's goal was because Charlie made an error at left back. Not Zog's fault - he's not an LB. And yet we have an LB, Enrique on the bench, while we're crying out for some more width. Milner and the Zog on the wings and Enrique at LB - it's not hard. Not meaning to jump on the lad but anyone with a brain in their head knows you don't try to play the ball like that from that positon. As a winger you will find yourself in that position from time to time so its no excuse saying "well not his fault, he isn't a left back". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 the lack of a right side for us has been a problem in recent games. When viduka was on I remember him recieving the ball about 40 yards from goal. He looked up to play a pass to the right hand side but there was no one there. The team is very inbalanced right now, and i'd like to see that change, pretty much by doing what people in this thread have suggested. Also milner being able to play early crosses in would be nice. Agreed. For a while I thought we were playing 4-3-3 but it was a narrow 4 with Martins floating to the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Adebayor's goal was because Charlie made an error at left back. Not Zog's fault - he's not an LB. And yet we have an LB, Enrique on the bench, while we're crying out for some more width. Milner and the Zog on the wings and Enrique at LB - it's not hard. Not meaning to jump on the lad but anyone with a brain in their head knows you don't try to play the ball like that from that positon. As a winger you will find yourself in that position from time to time so its no excuse saying "well not his fault, he isn't a left back". Agree. It was a silly error regardless of what position you play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest townfox Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 he wont drop our "captain fantastic" gerimi though will he... zogs plays left back for france under 21's which is why he's playing there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 he wont drop our "captain fantastic" gerimi though will he... zogs plays left back for france under 21's which is why he's playing there Hmmm I thought he already had Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I would like to see us stick with the current formation but move Zog in an attacking midfield role, with Milner staying where he is and Enrique coming in at LB. That way we would have a bit more pace and creativity in midfield. Obviously the Zog playing there wouldn't be guaranteed to work, but i say it's worth a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest townfox Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 and drop barton?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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