Guest Sniffer Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 It's alex....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Pretty much like N'zogbia as well. Doesn't puff his chest out but contributes f*** all. It'll be interesting to see how he responds when it gets a bit tasty . We've got more chance of playing our way out of trouble with the likes of N'Zogbia in form, than what we have of Barton, Butt & Smith bruising their way through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sniffer Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Disagree. N'zogbia is not the type of player who can roll his sleeves up and help a struggling team. He does not have it in him, IMO. Not that I think Smith or Barton can help us in their current form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I hate the phrase "relegation scrap", it sort of says that it's no longer a game of football. No side has stayed in this league by "scrapping", they have stayed in by playing football. If we are going to stay in this league we need to be the best football side we can. Players like Viduka, Emre and N'Zogbia over Smith, Butt etc everyday of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 We are now relegation battlers who need bruisers like Smith in midfield to save our Premiership status..? Blimey, the Keegan effect didn't last long did it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Disagree. N'zogbia is not the type of player who can roll his sleeves up and help a struggling team. He does not have it in him, IMO. Not that I think Smith or Barton can help us in their current form. The whole reason we're a "struggling team" in the first place is because the likes of Barton & Smith have been dogsh*t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I hate the phrase "relegation scrap", it sort of says that it's no longer a game of football. No side has stayed in this league by "scrapping", they have stayed in by playing football. If we are going to stay in this league we need to be the best football side we can. Players like Viduka, Emre and N'Zogbia over Smith, Butt etc everyday of the week. If we're relying on Viduka and Emre, we ARE fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I hate the phrase "relegation scrap", it sort of says that it's no longer a game of football. No side has stayed in this league by "scrapping", they have stayed in by playing football. If we are going to stay in this league we need to be the best football side we can. Players like Viduka, Emre and N'Zogbia over Smith, Butt etc everyday of the week. If we're relying on Viduka and Emre, we ARE fucked. absolutely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I hate the phrase "relegation scrap", it sort of says that it's no longer a game of football. No side has stayed in this league by "scrapping", they have stayed in by playing football. If we are going to stay in this league we need to be the best football side we can. Players like Viduka, Emre and N'Zogbia over Smith, Butt etc everyday of the week. If we're relying on Viduka and Emre, we ARE fucked. Why? Who would you prefer in their place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 all the teams below us would love to have Emre or Viduka in their side. the reason they're down there is because they don't have quality in their sides, lots of battlers and workers without much talent (Alan Smith) though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I hate the phrase "relegation scrap", it sort of says that it's no longer a game of football. No side has stayed in this league by "scrapping", they have stayed in by playing football. If we are going to stay in this league we need to be the best football side we can. Players like Viduka, Emre and N'Zogbia over Smith, Butt etc everyday of the week. If we're relying on Viduka and Emre, we ARE fucked. Why? Who would you prefer in their place? well, this is the point. We didn't react to the fact we are struggling ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 all the teams below us would love to have Emre or Viduka in their side. the reason they're down there is because they don't have quality in their sides, lots of battlers and workers without much talent (Alan Smith) though. I'd go along with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I hate the phrase "relegation scrap", it sort of says that it's no longer a game of football. No side has stayed in this league by "scrapping", they have stayed in by playing football. If we are going to stay in this league we need to be the best football side we can. Players like Viduka, Emre and N'Zogbia over Smith, Butt etc everyday of the week. If we're relying on Viduka and Emre, we ARE fucked. Why? Who would you prefer in their place? well, this is the point. We didn't react to the fact we are struggling ? So you believe the reason we are struggling is solely down to the talent of the players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 all the teams below us would love to have Emre or Viduka in their side. the reason they're down there is because they don't have quality in their sides, lots of battlers and workers without much talent (Alan Smith) though. Exactly. These are the people who have got us into the trouble in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I blame the old board myself... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I think Viduka is class but we can't rely on him as he's so injury proned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I hate the phrase "relegation scrap", it sort of says that it's no longer a game of football. No side has stayed in this league by "scrapping", they have stayed in by playing football. If we are going to stay in this league we need to be the best football side we can. Players like Viduka, Emre and N'Zogbia over Smith, Butt etc everyday of the week. If we're relying on Viduka and Emre, we ARE fucked. Why? Who would you prefer in their place? well, this is the point. We didn't react to the fact we are struggling ? So you believe the reason we are struggling is solely down to the talent of the players? the reason we are struggling is fairly obvious mate. Not enough quality footballers, its as simple as that, particularly in midfield and up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I think Viduka is class but we can't rely on him as he's so injury proned. agree, same with emre. you cant rely on any individual really, you have to work as a team. but the point still stands that while we'll berate the likes of Emre, N'Zogbia, Owen, Viduka etc for being lazy, inconsistent and so on, it's these types of players that give us an edge over the teams below us and players they'd love to have. workers like Geremi, Smith, Butt wouldn't really make any difference if they turned up in Birmingham or Derby's first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I hate the phrase "relegation scrap", it sort of says that it's no longer a game of football. No side has stayed in this league by "scrapping", they have stayed in by playing football. If we are going to stay in this league we need to be the best football side we can. Players like Viduka, Emre and N'Zogbia over Smith, Butt etc everyday of the week. If we're relying on Viduka and Emre, we ARE fucked. Why? Who would you prefer in their place? well, this is the point. We didn't react to the fact we are struggling ? So you believe the reason we are struggling is solely down to the talent of the players? the reason we are struggling is fairly obvious mate. Not enough quality footballers, its as simple as that, particularly in midfield and up front. Do you believe Blackburn and West Ham have more quality in their sides? I cant think for a second that you believe that. Therefore, why are they further up the league and out of the relegation places? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Blackburn and West Ham do have more quality in their sides. Especially in terms of attacking options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Blackburn and West Ham do have more quality in their sides. Especially in terms of attacking options. Look at who have played in their side consistantly, the only ones that stand out are Bentley and McCarthy, then i'm stuggling. These are sides who love to have viduka and emre. The problem isn't the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Blackburn and West Ham do have more quality in their sides. Especially in terms of attacking options. Look at who have played in their side consistantly, the only ones that stand out are Bentley and McCarthy, then i'm stuggling. These are sides who love to have viduka and emre. The problem isn't the players. McCarthy has only managed 1 goal in his last 15 appearances for Blackburn and that was a penalty against Sunderland, what they have got is a player in Bentley that is delivering the goods from midfield on a consistent basis, if you took him out of their team they would create very little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I hate the phrase "relegation scrap", it sort of says that it's no longer a game of football. No side has stayed in this league by "scrapping", they have stayed in by playing football. If we are going to stay in this league we need to be the best football side we can. Players like Viduka, Emre and N'Zogbia over Smith, Butt etc everyday of the week. If we're relying on Viduka and Emre, we ARE fucked. Why? Who would you prefer in their place? Good players, obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Dunn, MGP, and upfront Santa Cruz is better than any of our strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Aye, surprised he didn't mention Santa Cruz. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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