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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4748407.ece

 

Paul Forsyth

THEY gathered in their thousands outside St James’ Park last night, as they had done before the match, and will doubtless continue to do for as long as this farce is allowed to go on.

 

If the rising tide of opposition to his ownership wasn’t bad enough for Mike Ashley, along comes a home defeat by newly promoted Hull City to turn his worst nightmare into reality.

 

A goal in each half by Marlon King, a red card for Danny Guthrie, whose scything tackle in the closing stages reflected the frustration of all around him, and Newcastle were again a club in chaos. This was the last thing Ashley needed in response to the protests since the departure of Kevin Keegan 10 days ago.

 

Yet a return by the Messiah must be the only way Ashley can survive the bile coming his way, although it would require the dismissal of Dennis Wise and Tony Jimenez, the executive directors he appointed. Those are the men Keegan cannot work with, not Ashley.

 

The owner met his former manager on Friday night, prompting speculation that a third coming; or is it fourth?; was imminent. Although there was no reconciliation, the feeling is that talks may yet resume. If this was a PR stunt to appease the furious fans, it didn’t have the desired effect. They bit their lips during the match, but made their feelings clear before and afterwards. Shearer’s bar was buzzing, but the club shop next door was empty, victim of a boycott. The burger vans did a roaring trade, as punters opted out of buying refreshments in the stadium.

 

With every respect to Hull, this was not about them, or even the match. In one surreal moment early in the second half, the entire crowd seemed to be on its feet, watching the progress round the ground of a banner that read: “Cockney Mafia out!” When it passed in front of the padded seats, where managing director Derek Llambias was sitting, there was a roar of appreciation.

 

The saddest aspect of this latest episode in the club’s dramatic history is that an opportunity has been lost. Ashley came to Newcastle with the kind of sensible business plan they had been crying out for. His crime has been to botch the execution. He picked the last manager on earth likely to appreciate his frugal strategy, undermined him with his boardroom appointments and finds the club again at the mercy of its supporters’ base instincts. “Fat greedy bastard,” they chanted, as though the only answer to this club’s lifelong crisis was a few more pounds.

 

It was Newcastle’s first match since Keegan resigned, but he seemed to be there in spirit. Apart from the kick-off being conducted amid a cacophonous rendition of Keegan Wonderland, it was almost as though the team was tipping its hat to the departed one. Michael Owen played in the withdrawn position identified for him by Keegan towards the end of last season, and was influential. As well as providing an intelligent link between midfield and attack, he was a demonstrative presence on a day when a strong captain was called for.

 

Hull took the lead after Peter Halmosi dashed into the channel and Nicky Butt brought him down. Shay Given almost saved the penalty, but King’s connection was crisp and powerful enough to carry the ball over the line.

 

Newcastle’s supporters had vowed not to vent their frustrations on the team and were as good as their word, even after the setback. What they didn’t expect was the loss of another goal nine minutes into the second half. Pressing forward for an equaliser, the home side left itself exposed at the back, where King took full advantage. After stepping inside full-back Charles N’Zogbia, he curled a delicious left-footer into the far corner.

 

There was one last straw to grasp at. Nine minutes from the end, Xisco bundled in a loose ball after N’Zogbia’s shot had struck a post, but the flurry of activity it provoked culminated only in Guthrie’s foul on Craig Fagan. “Emotions were running a bit high,” said Newcastle’s caretaker manager, Chris Hughton, with a neat line in understatement.

 

sho 'nuff!

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Anyone listening to David Sullivan on 5live. What an absolute wankshaft.... I don't nor does any other newcastle fan care what this fuck thinks about newcastle.

 

Absolutely laying into ashley, newcastle and the fans.......absolute fucking agenda against us from him.

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Anyone listening to David Sullivan on 5live. What an absolute wankshaft.... I don't nor does any other newcastle fan care what this f*** thinks about newcastle.

 

Absolutely laying into ashley, newcastle and the fans.......absolute f***ing agenda against us from him.

 

I heard that interview, what an absolute w**nker. Reckons the only time he has been hit at a football match was when he was punched in the face by a newcastle fan. 

There was a similar anti newcastle tirade by Rob (didnt catch his surname) from News of the World just after 10pm on radio 5. Harry Harris was also on and he presented a slightly more balanced view!

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The trouble is many in the media are focussing on it on not being safe for Ashley to attend games and the hostility of the fans that would await any potential buyer should there not be immediate success.  Not very helpful when trying to sell the club.

 

 

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The trouble is many in the media are focussing on it on not being safe for Ashley to attend games and the hostility of the fans that would await any potential buyer should there not be immediate success.  Not very helpful when trying to sell the club.

 

To be honest Ashley should be made to clarify those comments. Has he had specific threats that he would be assaulted or have the police just told him to stay away as they think someone MAY try and assault him with feelings running so high?

 

As for David Sullivan, why would he be punched at Newcastle? Why would anyone give a fuck about him either way? He's a fucking Hugh Hefner wannabe!

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Anyone listening to David Sullivan on 5live. What an absolute wankshaft.... I don't nor does any other newcastle fan care what this fuck thinks about newcastle.

 

Absolutely laying into ashley, newcastle and the fans.......absolute fucking agenda against us from him.

 

David Sullivan? Short arse thick cunt owner of Birmingham City David Sullivan ??

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that is truely a dispicable piece of writing. This part is particularily ironic "The banners castigating Ashley for being a southerner during Saturday's comically self-important protest were the final straw for many of us who have long endured the tedious soap opera on Tyneside."

Yet the writer felt complelled to write this article about us despite his boredom with the affairs of a "not massive club".

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FFS when will majority on here learn, there is no anti-newcastle agenda anywhere out there.

 

We get laughed at because we have always been a joke of a club, Keegan first stint 'I love it', self proclaimed 'best fans in the world' and the whole arrogance that we are a big club.  It's all of a fault of our own.

 

Yes, we can protest Mike Ashley - but at times on Saturday it wasn't effective just majorly embarrassing.  Read up on any other team forums and i am willing to bet you will read something like 'Joke of a club'.  They are hardly journalists they are JUST FOOTBALL FANS. 

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Liam Liam Liam O

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Agree with all of that apart from the Allardyce bit tbh.

 

Have some fucking pride in your club man.

 

I detest nothing more than self pitty.

 

Its the self pity thats the problem IMO. Perhaps its a bit unfait to group all of the fans together, but the lot who've been whoring themselves to the media this last week have to bear a lot of the criticism.

 

Tha fans have done more damage than good in this last week.

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Who's rattled his cage?

 

Obviously we aren't a massive club or he'd have written more than 9 paragraphs

 

t***

 

Thats what i thought why waste your time writing this piece if the toon is such a insignificant club as he says Grade A C*** this guy im sure he has put the boot in before too

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This is a group of fans who agitated for the sacking of Sam Allardyce after only six months because the football was not pretty enough, even though he had put in place a much-needed science support structure and cleared out the dead wood from the Shepherd era. These are fans who want nothing to do with Ashley because he is from “down South” and because he insisted on a continental scouting system to support a manger who, by his own admission, had not attended a live match for three years and so was the last person who could have done the scouting job

 

This is not true?? anyone who disagrees with above - wake up!

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The Times article is horrible and malicious to the extreme. I really couldn't imagine that tone of writing being used about any other club.

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Kevin Keegan is not the Messiah - CHECK

Alan Shearer is not an aspect of the trinity - CHECK

Mike Ashley is not the Devil - CHECK

Tony Jimenez is not on the secret payroll of Sunderland - CHECK

Dennis Wise is not an evil dwarf - CHECK

Newcastle United are not a massive club - CHECK

We do not have a divine right to remain in the Premier League - CHECK

St James' Park is not the world's greatest stadium - CHECK

We won't break into the top four soon - CHECK

We are not the most loyal, valiant and wonderfully dependable fans on the planet - CHECK

 

It goes on.

 

Like LLLO says, other than the Allardyce bit, he pretty much sums up how we appear to the rest of the footballing world at the minute, and alot of it is justified.

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ive only read the headline and already i agree. im very much looking forward to reading the rest.

 

edit - read it and its the best thing ive read about us in ages. its such a shame most people wont ever admit its mostly true.

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Agree with all of that apart from the Allardyce bit tbh.

 

Have some f***ing pride in your club man.

 

I detest nothing more than self pitty.

 

Its the self pity thats the problem IMO. Perhaps its a bit unfait to group all of the fans together, but the lot who've been whoring themselves to the media this last week have to bear a lot of the criticism.

 

Tha fans have done more damage than good in this last week.

 

Have they fuck, if people really believe that then you and others just don't understand fans at all.

 

How did you expect people to react? What did you expect people to do?

 

Get over yourself man and stop with this self pitty, this loathing you seem to have building up in you of your club and fellow fans. It is you over reacting. Read that article again and tell me you honestly agree with it.

 

The prick that wrote that probably didn't even attend the match and doesn't understand fans whatsoever. Bog roll stuff, laughable.

 

 

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This is a group of fans who agitated for the sacking of Sam Allardyce after only six months because the football was not pretty enough, even though he had put in place a much-needed science support structure and cleared out the dead wood from the Shepherd era. These are fans who want nothing to do with Ashley because he is from “down South” and because he insisted on a continental scouting system to support a manger who, by his own admission, had not attended a live match for three years and so was the last person who could have done the scouting job

 

This is not true?? anyone who disagrees with above - wake up!

 

Dear o dear. 

Thats right. We are driving him out, for the lone reason that he is from Buckinghamshire.

 

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Liam Liam Liam O

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Have they fuck, if people really believe that then you and others just don't understand fans at all.

 

How did you expect people to react? What did you expect people to do?

 

Get over yourself man and stop with this self pitty, this loathing you seem to have building up in you of your club and fellow fans. It is you over reacting. Read that article again and tell me you honestly agree with it.

 

The prick that wrote that probably didn't even attend the match and doesn't understand fans whatsoever. Bog roll stuff, laughable.

 

 

 

No self pity here at all. I'm as pissed off as anyone at how this has turned out.  This last week has left us in a position where

 

1) If Ashley doesn't find a buyer by January, he may not fund any transfers when the window opens.  If the on-field performances continue like Saturday's, where will that leave us in May?

 

2) We're now a massively unattractive proposition to any potential manager.  Would you take on a job here in the next few weeks, knowing that the man who is emplyong you desperately wants out and any new owner are likely to want their own man?

 

How can any of that have improved the situation?

 

FWIW mind, I didn't think you'd agree with me :)

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