Ronaldo Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Luuk de Jong's wasn't either was it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Luuk de Jong wasn't either was it ? gervinho ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Luuk de Jong wasn't either was it ? gervinho ? Aye, that's another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Aubameyang was out of contract next year if he'd stayed I think. De Jong bid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Aubameyang was out of contract next year if he'd stayed I think. he didn't, and left for a biggish fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Remy's club wanted rid and we've only got him now that his club needed to get rid. Fuck knows what awful offer we made for Gervinho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Aubameyang was out of contract next year if he'd stayed I think. he didn't, and left for a biggish fee. If you knew why did you ask? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Aubameyang was out of contract next year if he'd stayed I think. De Jong bid We bid and he chose to go elsewhere, dont see what's funny. Mind you, you would have just complained he was foreign anyway. Probably best we didn't sign him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Aubameyang was out of contract next year if he'd stayed I think. he didn't, and left for a biggish fee. If you knew why did you ask? rhubarbical question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Aubameyang was out of contract next year if he'd stayed I think. De Jong bid We bid and he chose to go elsewhere, dont see what's funny. Mind you, you would have just complained he was foreign anyway. Probably best we didn't sign him. Pretty sure we were 'priced out'? But yeah dirty foreigners n all that - good point, well made. Needs more gifs though. Preferably Pardew ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 St Etienne said we made a bigger offer than Dortmund did for Aubameyang but the player wanted Dortmund and they in their words " respected his wishes". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Aubameyang was out of contract next year if he'd stayed I think. De Jong bid We bid and he chose to go elsewhere, dont see what's funny. Mind you, you would have just complained he was foreign anyway. Probably best we didn't sign him. Pretty sure we were 'priced out'? But yeah dirty foreigners n all that - good point, well made. Needs more gifs though. I was only joking mate it was something you said recently that made me chuckle. With Luuk De Jong, i thought we bid enough but he went because the team he went to had Champions Leauge footy. Could be wrong but i thought that was it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Aubameyang was out of contract next year if he'd stayed I think. De Jong bid We bid and he chose to go elsewhere, dont see what's funny. Mind you, you would have just complained he was foreign anyway. Probably best we didn't sign him. Pretty sure we were 'priced out'? But yeah dirty foreigners n all that - good point, well made. Needs more gifs though. I was only joking mate it was something you said recently that made me chuckle. With Luuk De Jong, i thought we bid enough but he went because the team he went to had Champions Leauge footy. Could be wrong but i thought that was it. Fair do's RE: the foreigner thing I grew up watching players I knew cared for the club; Kelly, Clark, Beardsley, Sir Les, Shearer, Speed, etc. Krul aside (& maybe a misguided Taylor but given his regular Pards/JFK comments not so sure) I don't see that in our first team. Anyhoo, speaking for myself I just wish we a little more diverse when it came to recruitment (nationality not an issue). I know we've all been made more than aware value is king but I think a few have bought in to this a little too much, even more so when we're pretty much chasing fuck all but being solvent as a football club these days. It's fucking boring IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Aubameyang was out of contract next year if he'd stayed I think. De Jong bid We bid and he chose to go elsewhere, dont see what's funny. Mind you, you would have just complained he was foreign anyway. Probably best we didn't sign him. Pretty sure we were 'priced out'? But yeah dirty foreigners n all that - good point, well made. Needs more gifs though. I was only joking mate it was something you said recently that made me chuckle. With Luuk De Jong, i thought we bid enough but he went because the team he went to had Champions Leauge footy. Could be wrong but i thought that was it. Fair do's RE: the foreigner thing I grew up watching players I knew cared for the club; Kelly, Clark, Beardsley, Sir Les, Shearer, Speed, etc. Krul aside (& maybe a misguided Taylor but given his regular Pards/JFK comments not so sure) I don't see that in our first team. Anyhoo, speaking for myself I just wish we a little more diverse when it came to recruitment. I know we've all been made more than aware value is king but I think a few have bought in to this a little too much, even more so when we're pretty much chasing fuck all but being solvent as a football club these days. It's fucking boring IMO. I must admit it was good seeing us with the players you mentioned, but i'm definitely a "couldn't care less where he's from if he's good enough type". I certainly agree with you about broadening our searches, now i know this goes against what i just said but i really think we've raided France a little too much now. But while Ashley runs us, it's about the best value for money market, wherever that may be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 This Lyon president really is trying to cut his own nose to spite his face. He keeps f***ing around with trying to get out of paying this 5% fee he might just end up losing Gomis for free. I can't see any other club matching our bid plus an additional 5% on top for a player that in 6 months time they can freely negotiate with for a free summer transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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watty 1892 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/dramatic-twist-in-newcastle-united-s-striker-chase-1-5927787 Speaking to L’Equipe 21 TV after Lyon’s win over Grasshoppers, which saw them qualify for the Champions League playoffs, Aulas said: “I am very disappointed that the deal was never finished with Newcastle. “Personally, I am very pessimistic. Someone is pulling the strings behind the scenes. “I have filed a complaint for ‘destabilisation’. Things will be settled in front of the appropriate committee. “It is a complete disservice to Bafe. He is a player that we respect. It completely flipped over with Newcastle. It was a priority that Bafe should have got what he wanted in terms of salary. “For the moment, the situation is blocked. On the 30th August, if no solution is reached we will reintegrate Bafe in the squad. We will have to change our approach to Bafe’s situation. Our desire is to settle things positively for everyone involved.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Is that shite translation or is he blaming us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I'm on board with Disco's xenophobia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As usual, everyone will rush to blame the Lyon chairman when the common denominator in all of these deals that go pear shaped is us acting the c*** in an attempt to shave a couple of percent off. being a regular on here I thought the default position was to blame our lot ? maybe using the evidence to hand on each occasion may make things more even. Or you could follow trends in our transfer behaviour which include targeting unsettled players which can lead to protracted negotiations if we're pinching pennies as we always do, and as a result quite often leaving ourselves short and sacrificing points until we get the deal done. transfer window behaviour ? like agreeing a fee for remy last january and (rumour has it) aubameyang a few weeks back ? admittedly we do take advantage of contract stuff (bloody well ope we would) but it's not the be all and end all. If a player's contract isn't vulnerable we're not interested in him. It's no way to built a team. remy and aubameyangs contracts werent vulnerable were they ? Aubameyang was out of contract next year if he'd stayed I think. De Jong bid We bid and he chose to go elsewhere, dont see what's funny. Mind you, you would have just complained he was foreign anyway. Probably best we didn't sign him. Pretty sure we were 'priced out'? But yeah dirty foreigners n all that - good point, well made. Needs more gifs though. I was only joking mate it was something you said recently that made me chuckle. With Luuk De Jong, i thought we bid enough but he went because the team he went to had Champions Leauge footy. Could be wrong but i thought that was it. Fair do's RE: the foreigner thing I grew up watching players I knew cared for the club; Kelly, Clark, Beardsley, Sir Les, Shearer, Speed, etc. Krul aside (& maybe a misguided Taylor but given his regular Pards/JFK comments not so sure) I don't see that in our first team. Anyhoo, speaking for myself I just wish we a little more diverse when it came to recruitment (nationality not an issue). I know we've all been made more than aware value is king but I think a few have bought in to this a little too much, even more so when we're pretty much chasing fuck all but being solvent as a football club these days. It's fucking boring IMO. English football is unrecognisable from that period you mentioned, most teams in those eras were built around mostly English players. If we tried to do that now, we'd end up spending a fortune on the best British talent and still probably getting beat off the likes of Southampton and Swansea. Could we spread our net wider than France? Yes, but like I said previously, there is a plus side in that at least it makes us more attractive to other French players, who otherwise might not consider the north east. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 How do other clubs manage to have plenty of English players without spending these vast fortunes then? If you scout properly, there's loads of untapped potential in the lower league as evidenced by how well many players who've been promoted have done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 How do other clubs manage to have plenty of English players without spending these vast fortunes then? If you scout properly, there's loads of untapped potential in the lower league as evidenced by how well many players who've been promoted have done. Which other clubs are we talking about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 That'll have more English players featuring regularly next season then we do? All of them I suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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