Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Barcelona press reporting we have upped our offer for Cesc to €50m. That's a lot of money to turn down, if true. Aye, I'd accept that. Sure its Fabregas, but thats money that you can rebuild a team with, especially when you've got Jack Wilshire and Ramsay coming through as replacements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Barcelona press reporting we have upped our offer for Cesc to €50m. That's a lot of money to turn down, if true. Aye, I'd accept that. Sure its Fabregas, but thats money that you can rebuild a team with, especially when you've got Jack Wilshire and Ramsay coming through as replacements. hasn't he been snapped in two? might be a reason wenger is being so reticent - if this lad was fit and ready to step in then the deal might be done already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Barcelona press reporting we have upped our offer for Cesc to €50m. That's a lot of money to turn down, if true. Aye, I'd accept that. Sure its Fabregas, but thats money that you can rebuild a team with, especially when you've got Jack Wilshire and Ramsay coming through as replacements. That's what I mean. I don't care what Wenger says, every player has a value at which the bid is impossible to turn down. 50m Euro might just be that amount. Can see him going if the bid is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Some other local media are putting it at only €42m. But all seem to agree there's a new bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Barcelona press reporting we have upped our offer for Cesc to 50m. That's a lot of money to turn down, if true. Aye, I'd accept that. Sure its Fabregas, but thats money that you can rebuild a team with, especially when you've got Jack Wilshire and Ramsay coming through as replacements. That'd be unbelievable pressure on young relatively unproven shoulders though. Arsenal would need to buy someone to replace him I reckon if he left. Incidentally thought Kheidera would've been ideal for a team like Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Barcelona press reporting we have upped our offer for Cesc to €50m. That's a lot of money to turn down, if true. what's Wenger gonna do with 50m though? who's he gonna buy?...alls he ever seems to do is spunk his cash on more unprovens maybe if he went for someone like derossi at roma or something, i dunno...who else could he get in the position he needs? realistically wengers on the verge of properly losing it as it is, 50m and no fabregas might just break him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Barcelona press reporting we have upped our offer for Cesc to €50m. That's a lot of money to turn down, if true. Aye, I'd accept that. Sure its Fabregas, but thats money that you can rebuild a team with, especially when you've got Jack Wilshire and Ramsay coming through as replacements. hasn't he been snapped in two? might be a reason wenger is being so reticent - if this lad was fit and ready to step in then the deal might be done already Yeah, he's injured this season, but hopefully he's still got his whole career a head of him. If Wenger has one thing down, its planning for the future. A reported 50m Euro bid coming his way, two rising stars to replace Fabregas, seems like a great situation to be in. Barcelona press reporting we have upped our offer for Cesc to 50m. That's a lot of money to turn down, if true. Aye, I'd accept that. Sure its Fabregas, but thats money that you can rebuild a team with, especially when you've got Jack Wilshire and Ramsay coming through as replacements. That'd be unbelievable pressure on young relatively unproven shoulders though. Arsenal would need to buy someone to replace him I reckon if he left. Incidentally thought Kheidera would've been ideal for a team like Arsenal. Why? Wenger is one of the best in the business at knowing when a player is or isn't ready for 1st team football. Wilshire has that 'arrogant' swagger commentators love talking about (like Rooney when he was 16). Sure, it'd be a huge ask for him to last the whole season, but there are other players who can step up too, such as Diaby or Nasri. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Barcelona press reporting we have upped our offer for Cesc to €50m. That's a lot of money to turn down, if true. what's Wenger gonna do with 50m though? who's he gonna buy?...alls he ever seems to do is spunk his cash on more unprovens maybe if he went for someone like derossi at roma or something, i dunno...who else could he get in the position he needs? realistically wengers on the verge of properly losing it as it is, 50m and no fabregas might just break him That would be Wenger's problem. Maybe he thinks buying a couple of defenders would improve the squad/team which would compensate for losing Fabregas? It's a lot of cash and would Fabregas be giving it 100% if he's not being allowed to join the team he wants to play for? It's a big decision for Wenger and one he can't really get right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Yeah, you've got to imagine his heads been turned now, at the least his heart. Look at what happened that season Henry stayed, he was a shadow of the player he usually was. For that to happen again, again to the player that makes the team tick, won't be a good thing for Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Barcelona press reporting we have upped our offer for Cesc to 50m. That's a lot of money to turn down, if true. Aye, I'd accept that. Sure its Fabregas, but thats money that you can rebuild a team with, especially when you've got Jack Wilshire and Ramsay coming through as replacements. hasn't he been snapped in two? might be a reason wenger is being so reticent - if this lad was fit and ready to step in then the deal might be done already Yeah, he's injured this season, but hopefully he's still got his whole career a head of him. If Wenger has one thing down, its planning for the future. A reported 50m Euro bid coming his way, two rising stars to replace Fabregas, seems like a great situation to be in. Barcelona press reporting we have upped our offer for Cesc to 50m. That's a lot of money to turn down, if true. Aye, I'd accept that. Sure its Fabregas, but thats money that you can rebuild a team with, especially when you've got Jack Wilshire and Ramsay coming through as replacements. That'd be unbelievable pressure on young relatively unproven shoulders though. Arsenal would need to buy someone to replace him I reckon if he left. Incidentally thought Kheidera would've been ideal for a team like Arsenal. Why? Wenger is one of the best in the business at knowing when a player is or isn't ready for 1st team football. Wilshire has that 'arrogant' swagger commentators love talking about (like Rooney when he was 16). Sure, it'd be a huge ask for him to last the whole season, but there are other players who can step up too, such as Diaby or Nasri. Not fit to lace Fabregas' boots, agree with Nasri though. Could even end up changing their system and playing Song Diaby Walcott Arshavin RVP Chamakh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Song Diaby Walcott Arshavin RVP Chamakh if they harbour any hopes whatsoever of winning the league they'd better not do that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Diaby is quality though, he's different to Fabregas of course, but he'll turn out to be world class IMO (if he isn't already). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 To be honest, it's a make it or break it moment for Wenger. Selling Cesc pretty much means no chance of silverware this season, and Arsenal slipping more and more. What point serves his (very successful) youth policy if you end up losing your best products to other teams when they make it? Teams like Sevilla can get away with that, but they're f***ing Arsenal, they are expected to contend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 To be honest, it's a make it or break it moment for Wenger. Selling Cesc pretty much means no chance of silverware this season, and Arsenal slipping more and more. What point servers his (very successful) youth policy if you end up losing your best products to other teams when they make it? Teams like Sevilla can get away with that, but they're fucking Arsenal, they are expected to contend. This is a good point, the problem with relying on youth is that they will leave if you don't achieve success in the meantime. They'd be better off selling Cesc for 20m in a couple of years time than selling him for 40m now. In that time they could win the Premiership and even the Champions League. Arsenal's problems are more about signing players than selling them though IMO, maybe Chamakh will turn out to be the striker they've been waiting for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 no deal IMO. maybe sell him next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 One more season Cesc. Would hate to see him leave. 50mil is a heaving mass of money though. So many possibilities. Bring in 3 quality players, easily. Carlos Eduardo would be fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 To be honest, it's a make it or break it moment for Wenger. Selling Cesc pretty much means no chance of silverware this season, and Arsenal slipping more and more. What point servers his (very successful) youth policy if you end up losing your best products to other teams when they make it? Teams like Sevilla can get away with that, but they're fucking Arsenal, they are expected to contend. This is a good point, the problem with relying on youth is that they will leave if you don't achieve success in the meantime. They'd be better off selling Cesc for 20m in a couple of years time than selling him for 40m now. In that time they could win the Premiership and even the Champions League. Arsenal's problems are more about signing players than selling them though IMO, maybe Chamakh will turn out to be the striker they've been waiting for. Think he will, probably signing of the season. Even more so since he was a free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 They'll probably put the deal in place this summer I'd imagine for the transfer next. If he leaves reckon Arsenal could well miss out on the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Will he play if he goes to Barca? Surely Xavi still has a couple seasons in him. Would they push Iniesta out wide? Would Villa push out Ibra in that case? Surely quite harsh on Pedro? Either way, there will be some problems as they will need to leave a big name on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Will he play if he goes to Barca? Surely Xavi still has a couple seasons in him. Would they push Iniesta out wide? Would Villa push out Ibra in that case? Surely quite harsh on Pedro? Either way, there will be some problems as they will need to leave a big name on the bench. Iniesta out wide to begin with I'd have thought, use Pedro as an impact sub, and then very very slowly fazing Xavi out of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Will he play if he goes to Barca? Surely Xavi still has a couple seasons in him. Would they push Iniesta out wide? Would Villa push out Ibra in that case? Surely quite harsh on Pedro? Either way, there will be some problems as they will need to leave a big name on the bench. Iniesta out wide to begin with I'd have thought, use Pedro as an impact sub, and then very very slowly fazing Xavi out of the team. That was what I thought. But Xavi is just so brilliant and non-reliant on physical attributes that he could easily play till he is 33-34 in that Barca side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Will he play if he goes to Barca? Surely Xavi still has a couple seasons in him. Would they push Iniesta out wide? Would Villa push out Ibra in that case? Surely quite harsh on Pedro? Either way, there will be some problems as they will need to leave a big name on the bench. Iniesta out wide to begin with I'd have thought, use Pedro as an impact sub, and then very very slowly fazing Xavi out of the team. That was what I thought. But Xavi is just so brilliant and non-reliant on physical attributes that he could easily play till he is 33-34 in that Barca side. Oh definitely, Xavi still has loads of years left in him which is why i don't understand the Cesc saga really but i guess its more of statement of intent thing for Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Is it not to create 2 squads for League and Champions League success? I know they hardly need it given the last few seasons, but it must ware on the players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Fabregas is staying at Arsenal. "Firstly I would like to apologise to all the Arsenal fans for not speaking sooner about my future but I have not known what I was going to do until this moment," "I cannot deny that joining a club like Barcelona was not an attractive move for me. This was the club where I learnt my football, it is my home town where my friends and family are and a club where I have always dreamed of playing. There are not many players in the world who would not want to play for Barcelona. "I have had many conversations with Arsene Wenger both in person and over the phone over the last few months and although the content of those conversations will remain private, the conclusion is that Barcelona have had two formal offers rejected by Arsenal. "I am a professional and I fully understand that it is Arsenal's prerogative not to sell me. "I owe a lot to the club, manager and the fans and I will respect their decision and will now concentrate on the new season ahead with Arsenal. "I can assure all the fans that now the negotiations have ended I will be 100 per cent focused on playing for Arsenal. "I am an Arsenal player and as soon as I step out on to the pitch, that is the only club I will be thinking about. "I am looking forward to the start of the season and putting this speculation behind me." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 so what 9 months until that circus starts again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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