Chris Mort's departure confirmed. Derek Llambias is new Managing Director.

[NE5]

all part of the plan

 

 

[madras]

all part of the plan

 

 

come on then......you want someone to ask......whats "the plan"?

[Parky]

The "plan" that the old board apparently didnt have is my guess.

 

Uh Oh! 

[madras]

The "plan" that the old board apparently didnt have is my guess.

mackems.gif (for ironie's sake)

[dustynrg]

They have a plan to move St James Park brick by brick to some part of London. I'm amazed people haven't heard anyting about it.

[fredbob]

The "plan" that the old board apparently didnt have is my guess.

 

Uh Oh! 

 

Yeh, ya right, im gonna remove that message.

[Dave]

Bit late now.

[Mick]

It's because we only have one fax machine, and it's in London.

 

Remember all transfer activity is carried out via fax.

 

& we have to share it with Sports Direct Spurs

 

http://djwaldow.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/old-fax.jpg

 

Fixed

[Guest Knightrider]

Why did they hold the meeting in London if Ashley and Mort were in Newcastle that evening for Sir Bobby's bash?

 

Less chance of things being leaked from Mort's offices in London...

[Liam Liam Liam O]

It's because we only have one fax machine, and it's in London.

 

Remember all transfer activity is carried out via fax.

 

& we have to share it with Sports Direct Spurs

 

http://djwaldow.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/old-fax.jpg

 

Fixed

 

mackems.gif

[NE5]

Bit late now.

 

[mrmojorisin75]

which was the players that "Mort missed out of" then?

 

Sidwell.

 

Modric.

 

Woodgate.

 

You have 2 managers who have expressed dissatisfaction with the support given to them by officials at the club.

 

Allardyce complained of them not moving quick enough etc etc

 

Keegan made the comments he made 2 weeks ago

 

Still, you know best

 

 

 

 

NE5 didn't sidwell sign for chelski very early last summer, before the club had even changed hands?

 

anyways a wider point here i think you seem to sidestep is, in my opinion, mort was never brought in to be the type of chairman you expect him to be - and that's not a dig, what i mean is the historic english chairman who does all the transfer deals you know?

 

personally i reckon ashley has identified that in the past people brokering the deals in football were lacking expertise in both football and legal/negotiating/financial matters and he's brought in a team he believes will benefit the club to take care of all that

 

i think they've been intentionally cautious in the market as part of this overall strategy - i mean i'm actually glad they didn't come in gung-ho 'cause if they'd let fat sam blow 50m i think we'd all be a lot unhappier now?

 

anyway all that said i can forgive a period of cooling off as they surveyed what was around them, i can forgive it no more; it's time to stop the headlines about boardroom appointments and joey bartons gaol time and start the headlines about players

 

SHOW ME THE MONEY MIKE!!!!!

 

Sidwell joined Chelsea on 1 July 2007 following the expiry of his contract with Reading

 

On June 7, 2007 it was confirmed that chairman Freddy Shepherd had agreed to sell his 28% share to Ashley, which left Ashley free to take control of the club.[17]

 

As of June 15, 2007, Ashley owned a 77.06% stake in Newcastle United and was on course to withdraw the club from the stock exchange having surpassed the 75% threshold required.[18]

 

both statements taken from wikipedia

 

whatever the impact or otherwise of these dates [which shows the Ashley - and Mort - had control of the club when Sidwell went to Chelsea] its the comments from Mort which are more alarming to me. Allardyce complained about them not understanding how things work in football, so has Keegan the other week.

 

I've always said that the first thing you want from a chairman is the desire to punch the clubs weight. It doesn't matter how nice a bloke he may be, if they don't do that they are a waste of time.

 

Hope Mort does OK as he seems like a nice bloke but I'm not bothered he's left the club. If his successor is the same, then its Ashley's desire to run the club like a tight ship, and believe me, unless you compete with the big boys you won't get in amongst them. This is obvious, and is so obvious I just don't understand how people keep making excuses.

 

We will find out soon enough.

 

You can make good decisions and bad decisons, but if you have to atttempt it. If you don't buy a ticket you don't win the raffle.

 

 

other people have pulled the sidwell facts, and isn't it accepted knowledge that we offered more in fees and wages for modric than spurs?  woodgate was a last minute job wasn't it and he'd already agreed to go to spurs?  i stand to be corrected on the second two mind

 

anyway back to point, i think you've made my point for me "I've always said that the first thing you want from a chairman is the desire to punch the clubs weight." - because you say it doesn't make it true, you've made the role of chairman at NUFC that of punching the clubs weight in the transfer market, it might not be part of his remit under ashley in reality

 

it's perfectly clear to me why mort was brought in and it wasn't to go out and broker deals to bring the best players in the world to SJP so i can't understand your criticism of him i guess...i'll guarantee if you got an audience with ashley he'd tell you the guy did exactly what he was brought in to do

 

your criticism of him is almost like me criticing beye for not scoring double figures - it's not strictly speaking in his job description but i've decided he should be doing it so why isn't he? (petty i know dude)

 

I see your point. Fair comment. Its a slight play on the word "chairman" again, which in this case, I've done myself too. We all know that Ashley is the owner and so the chairman will do his bidding for him, so it is maybe wrong to say "Mort". This means that if Mort has done what Ashley wanted, then his replacement will also do the same ?

 

Agreed ?

 

It therefore follows that if this theory is correct, nothing will change under the new chairman, whoever it is ?

 

So whoever the new chairman is, Ashley will have to raise his game, if this theory is correct. He will have to learn that some of the comments made by Mort [on behalf of Ashley] are not ones which a progressive football club should be making, nor is it a path they should be following. I don't agree that the chairman should be saying in November that we won't be making signings in January unless they are young players for the future, when the team aren't doing too well. We were incredibly fortunate Keegan found a way to keep Owen fit, and a system to play him, Martins and Viduka or we would have been in serious relegation trouble.

 

And it also follows that if the new chairman is given a different role to one that Mort had, what was Ashley doing by not giving Mort the same power he may give the new man ? This has not been fair to Mort if this is the case ?

 

We will see.

 

 

 

progress appears slow to achieve, as for your first question i agree; under the new owner ashley the chairman is not running the club 100% and is bound by what his paymaster is telling him, therefore i think you're correct to say a new chairman will not change anything

 

however i also think you ignore one very crucial point:  the transfer trio of people the club have brought in - the chairman should now be essentially a non-entity in this area, everything must be run by them and i think you'll find it will be

 

2 transfer windows so far; first one they backed fat sam to a degree and evidently didn't like what they saw on the pitch and with his transfers and in between that window and the next went about assembling these transfer monkeys; second window a nightmare as a manager had just been sacked and the new team barely had their feet under the table, aborted bid for woodgate who was a known quantity to manager and owner

 

now we'll see what's what, forget the chairman man he's an irrelevance now - the club have instituted a policy of signing young(er) players and have employed a team of people to ensure we get good players...whether we now go and sign no-one at all, sign people who are good or sign people who are shit the likelihood is it will have virtually nothing to do with the chairman whoever he is

 

i agree with the 2nd part of what you say but it's somewhat harsh in my opinion not to cut these guys a little slack first season; if we'd gone down i'd have been there with you but as you say keegan did VERY well in the end (and THEY appointed him after all) and we've not panic bought a load of shite in january...we're in a better position now

 

and yes it's time for ASHLEY to perform, 100% agree...as i said i see mitigations with the last year in most areas, there are no more get out of jail cards for them or we'll have a repeat of last season on our hands

[Guest Edd]

Danny Kelly on TalkSport has just said that after the crap season we've had, rather than blame any of the players or manager, we've blamed Mort and therefore sacked him.  Sacked eh? 

[kirkwdavis2001]

Danny Kelly on TalkSport has just said that after the crap season we've had, rather than blame any of the players or manager, we've blamed Mort and therefore sacked him.  Sacked eh? 

 

I heard that, was gunna text in and correct him but I was driving so had to concentrate on that and the pint of lager I had in my hand

[Guest Edd]

Danny Kelly on TalkSport has just said that after the crap season we've had, rather than blame any of the players or manager, we've blamed Mort and therefore sacked him.  Sacked eh? 

 

I heard that, was gunna text in and correct him but I was driving so had to concentrate on that and the pint of lager I had in my hand

Aye texting while driving and trying to down a can of lager at the same time is a right bitch.

[kirkwdavis2001]

Danny Kelly on TalkSport has just said that after the crap season we've had, rather than blame any of the players or manager, we've blamed Mort and therefore sacked him.  Sacked eh? 

 

I heard that, was gunna text in and correct him but I was driving so had to concentrate on that and the pint of lager I had in my hand

Aye texting while driving and trying to down a can of lager at the same time is a right bitch.

 

Yep, they should change the test to reflect the skills needed!

[Robster]

Danny Kelly on TalkSport has just said that after the crap season we've had, rather than blame any of the players or manager, we've blamed Mort and therefore sacked him.  Sacked eh? 

 

I heard that too. Came on this thread to mention it. I usully liek Danny Keppy but that was utter shit.

I heard hime first mention it about 7pm and he compoundedit by telling us all that we sacked our Managing Director !!!!

[JH]

His reign has just been completely justified:

 

Asked to name his worst moment, Quinn said: "I would have have to say after the Newcastle result away.

 

"To see their chairman come into the boardroom at St James' Park doing the conga, that was hard to take."

 

[madras]

His reign has just been completely justified:

 

Asked to name his worst moment, Quinn said: "I would have have to say after the Newcastle result away.

 

"To see their chairman come into the boardroom at St James' Park doing the conga, that was hard to take."

 

that is brilliant

[KaKa]

His reign has just been completely justified:

 

Asked to name his worst moment, Quinn said: "I would have have to say after the Newcastle result away.

 

"To see their chairman come into the boardroom at St James' Park doing the conga, that was hard to take."

 

 

[Wullie]

  Genius.

[kirkwdavis2001]

ha ha, awesome!!!! Where's that quote from?

[Dave]

Quality.

[madras]

that quote is worth getting put on a t-shirt

[JH]

ha ha, awesome!!!! Where's that quote from?

 

Originally it came from an interview with Quinn of the Mackem official site.