Mistle17 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Overall Bowyer was a better player. I remember reading an interview with Johnathan Woodgate and he said that Lee Bowyer is probably the fittest player hes ever met. He said that during the court case thing, both him and Bowyer hadnt played for about a month...or trained. But Bowyer was still fit enough start for Leeds, apparently. Trouble wise their both on par but Bowyer was better than Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DazzaNufc1892 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 sick of saying this, bowyer = innocent, so unfair to put him in the same bracket as barton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Bowyer got done for smashing up McDonalds didnt he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 sick of saying this, bowyer = innocent, so unfair to put him in the same bracket as barton Sweeping generalisation, innocent of some things, guilty of an awful lot more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Bowyer got done for smashing up McDonalds didnt he? And guilty of a doping offence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedudeabides Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 They are both overrated shit-houses who we should have avoided like the plague. Similar players as well.........light weight, one-paced, can't beat a man, weak as piss, powder puff shooting tossers, that offer next to nothing on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedudeabides Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 sick of saying this, bowyer = innocent, so unfair to put him in the same bracket as barton He might have got away with it, but I know exactly what happened and believe you me, he was far from innocent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 bowyer was and is still a better player imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UV Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 sick of saying this, bowyer = innocent, so unfair to put him in the same bracket as barton He might have got away with it, but I know exactly what happened and believe you me, he was far from innocent. Why didn't you try to stop it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 sick of saying this, bowyer = innocent, so unfair to put him in the same bracket as barton He might have got away with it, but I know exactly what happened and believe you me, he was far from innocent. Why didn't you try to stop it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedudeabides Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 sick of saying this, bowyer = innocent, so unfair to put him in the same bracket as barton He might have got away with it, but I know exactly what happened and believe you me, he was far from innocent. Why didn't you try to stop it? I was holding Bowyer's coat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Overall Bowyer was a better player. I remember reading an interview with Johnathan Woodgate and he said that Lee Bowyer is probably the fittest player hes ever met. He said that during the court case thing, both him and Bowyer hadnt played for about a month...or trained. But Bowyer was still fit enough start for Leeds, apparently. Trouble wise their both on par but Bowyer was better than Barton. yeah, the point I was making earlier was that he had the best engine of just about anyone i'd ever seen. Yet some construed that as me saying he's Zidane and Gattuso rolled into one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Bowyer for Leeds, for a while was better than Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Bowyer was fucking wank for us. Barton hasn't been much better to be fair... it's a toughy. I'd probably rather have Barton. Baffles me when people say Bowyer was our best midfielder in that 04/05 (Souness) season. He was atrocious whenever i saw him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Bowyer was f***ing w*** for us. Barton hasn't been much better to be fair... it's a toughy. I'd probably rather have Barton. Baffles me when people say Bowyer was our best midfielder in that 04/05 (Souness) season. He was atrocious whenever i saw him. who was better? Bowyer by far scored the most goals and offered most defensively Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Bowyer was shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Bowyer was f***ing w*** for us. Barton hasn't been much better to be fair... it's a toughy. I'd probably rather have Barton. Baffles me when people say Bowyer was our best midfielder in that 04/05 (Souness) season. He was atrocious whenever i saw him. who was better? Bowyer by far scored the most goals and offered most defensively Dyer, probably Robert. Milner and Ambrose should have got more pitch-time aswell. I can remember Ambrose coming back into the team and scoring two in two and being very influential at Fulham (think it was). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Bowyer was f***ing w*** for us. Barton hasn't been much better to be fair... it's a toughy. I'd probably rather have Barton. Baffles me when people say Bowyer was our best midfielder in that 04/05 (Souness) season. He was atrocious whenever i saw him. who was better? Bowyer by far scored the most goals and offered most defensively Dyer, probably Robert. Milner and Ambrose should have got more pitch-time aswell. I can remember Ambrose coming back into the team and scoring two in two and being very influential at Fulham (think it was). Ameobi also scored in that game Dyer was woeful in that season like. Let's be honest it was littered with bad decisions by the c***. I remember 4-3-3 away at Bolton with Ambrose playing instead of Robert because "we have to build a more solid foundation" - the c*** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Barton, by a country mile. Decent first touch and considerably better passer of the ball. He's been shit for us in comparison to the real Joey Barton because of his problems, both injury/fitness and off-field. Barton also has good ability that he's unfortunately just not shown bar the very odd glimpse. I think twice last season he hit a pass that has been absolutely outstanding - great technique and execution resulting in a fantastic final ball. It's something he's certainly capable of, naturally not on a regular basis as he's no Zidane, but h at least he has it in his locker and will attempt it when its on. Bowyer on the other hand was from the Alan Smith school of footballers. Most of the time he was a mediocre footballer on the ball beyond having a half decent first touch - some of his performances on the right wing were amongst the worst ive seen for us in recent times, granted that wasnt his "natural" position but he would've made Fumaca look a half decent player, which isnt right for a midfielder who supposedly has some ability,. out of position or not - and his passing was shit (probably had one "real" assist, e.g. a through ball, in his 3 years here) but had a good engine, ability to get stuck in, and a knack of getting on the end of chances frequently - the last of which didnt count for much as 99 times out of 100 he'd either scuff his shot or hit it weakly straight at the keeper. In all, I think he had about 3 to 4 good games with us in 3 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Barton, by a country mile. Decent first touch and considerably better passer of the ball. He's been s*** for us in comparison to the real Joey Barton because of his problems, both injury/fitness and off-field. Barton also has good ability that he's unfortunately just not shown bar the very odd glimpse. I think twice last season he hit a pass that has been absolutely outstanding - great technique and execution resulting in a fantastic final ball. It's something he's certainly capable of, naturally not on a regular basis as he's no Zidane, but h at least he has it in his locker and will attempt it when its on. Bowyer on the other hand was from the Alan Smith school of footballers. Most of the time he was a mediocre footballer on the ball beyond having a half decent first touch - some of his performances on the right wing were amongst the worst ive seen for us in recent times, granted that wasnt his "natural" position but he would've made Fumaca look a half decent player, which isnt right for a midfielder who supposedly has some ability,. out of position or not - and his passing was s*** (probably had one "real" assist, e.g. a through ball, in his 3 years here) but had a good engine, ability to get stuck in, and a knack of getting on the end of chances frequently - the last of which didnt count for much as 99 times out of 100 he'd either scuff his shot or hit it weakly straight at the keeper. In all, I think he had about 3 to 4 good games with us in 3 seasons. Cant grumble at much of that. Although Bowyer was a beast against Bolton a couple of seasons ago at SJP. Scored a belter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 i rate bowyer over barton personally, but it's up to joey to pull his finger out and show us how good he can be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Kelly Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Bowyer is possibly a rascist little shit and Barton is definitely a fucking arsehole. Barton never recaptured his Leeds form here but he still did a lot more than Barton has managed. He had some games where he played really well and Barton (baring a few friendlies at the begining of last season) hasn't done that. Of the two, Bowyer any day but I can think of a hell of a lot of midfielders who have played here who I would pick over both of them (even Dyer). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edd Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 sick of saying this, bowyer = innocent, so unfair to put him in the same bracket as barton He might have got away with it, but I know exactly what happened and believe you me, he was far from innocent. Why didn't you try to stop it? I was holding Bowyer's coat. And Woodgate who was found guilty of playing a part in the same incident is still seen as some sort of hero up here. I wonder why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 sick of saying this, bowyer = innocent, so unfair to put him in the same bracket as barton He might have got away with it, but I know exactly what happened and believe you me, he was far from innocent. Why didn't you try to stop it? I was holding Bowyer's coat. And Woodgate who was found guilty of playing a part in the same incident is still seen as some sort of hero up here. I wonder why. Quality player (as per your point). Still wish we hadnt sold him. That £13mill went down the drain on Boumsong, Babayaro & Faye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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