Stifler Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I wonder if we have seen the last of him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Colo and Jonas are some of the few players we have with notable talent. Last players anybody should be criticising. I don't know, I still think we can be justified in questioning Jonás' consistency and general footballing knowledge of whats going on around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 Colo and Jonas are some of the few players we have with notable talent. Last players anybody should be criticising. I don't know, I still think we can be justified in questioning Jonás' consistency and general footballing knowledge of whats going on around him. I still think it's his final ball that lets him down, if he worked on that then he would be such a great player for us. I fear that he goes somewhere else and works out what to do on his final ball and make him a complete players, which always seems to happen to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 If he worked on that he'd be at Real Madrid or Barcelona, not Newcastle. Think we have to accept his flaws and appreciate what he does bring to the team, else he'd be a £20m winger playing in the Champions League rather than just a very good £7m player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 If he had better movement and options around him his final ball wouldn't be half as bad imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 If he worked on that he'd be at Real Madrid or Barcelona, not Newcastle. Think we have to accept his flaws and appreciate what he does bring to the team, else he'd be a £20m winger playing in the Champions League rather than just a very good £7m player. This. We could never keep the player we want him to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 If he knew when to pass the ball, his assists ratio would be at least tripled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 I wonder if we have seen the last of him? I wouldn't be surprised if he has a half-decent world cup, some team will bid something ridiculous for him and Ashley will bite their hand off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 If he worked on that he'd be at Real Madrid or Barcelona, not Newcastle. Think we have to accept his flaws and appreciate what he does bring to the team, else he'd be a £20m winger playing in the Champions League rather than just a very good £7m player. This. We could never keep the player we want him to be. Or buy the player we want him to be. I agree with SSR, it's very possible he could have a good world cup and we get a decent bid for him which on the face of it would be good business. Getting in someone better is easy to talk about in theory, in reality it will probably prove very difficult with the sort of money we have available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 http://i44.tinypic.com/a5ge1s.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 has anyone seen him play much for argentina. i've seen 3 or 4 of his games and he is a completly different player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 http://i44.tinypic.com/a5ge1s.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 When he plays for Argentina he has people to pass too - so he doesn't try to do too much. I'm hoping we might inject some extra movement into our midfieldd to allow him this luxury next year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 When he plays for Argentina he has people to pass too - so he doesn't try to do too much. I'm hoping we might inject some extra movement into our midfieldd to allow him this luxury next year Dont be silly, Nolan and Smith/Guthrie all the way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 When he plays for Argentina he has people to pass too - so he doesn't try to do too much. I'm hoping we might inject some extra movement into our midfieldd to allow him this luxury next year you'll not believe this but originally in my post i'd put "i know he has more options to pass to but he also has his head up a lot more" and i pulled it cos of the probable "head up what/who" jokes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 If he knew when to pass the ball, his assists ratio would be at least tripled. Or how? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 His passing on the floor, when he has runners, is surprisingly accurate. His crossing is poor though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 His passing on the floor, when he has runners, is surprisingly accurate. His crossing is poor though. It's ok in terms of possession retention. In terms of putting a player through he's often unambitious and nowhere near as good as the likes of Routledge and Guthrie. He's great at getting in the right position to set players away, just doesn't quite have the quality or vision to do it a lot of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 30, 2010 Share Posted April 30, 2010 That's the thing, people have used poor players around him which would be a valid point if routledge wasn't managing to pick out these poor players on such a regular basis. Jonas is excellent at carrying a ball, he just doesn't know when to release. That being said I am more than happy if we have to "settle" for him as our first choice left winger next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 That's the thing, people have used poor players around him which would be a valid point if routledge wasn't managing to pick out these poor players on such a regular basis. Jonas is excellent at carrying a ball, he just doesn't know when to release. That being said I am more than happy if we have to "settle" for him as our first choice left winger next season. He improved a lot when Routledge came in as a lot of defensive focus was taken off him. His final product is nowhere near as good as Routledge's (on the basis of the last half season) even if he is much better at a lot of things. I think Jonas has had a decent season, he was poor a lot of the time pre-Jan though, several times at the start of the season didn't look as though he gave a fuck. Seems to have got into it again though, fair play to him, could be essential next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 That's the thing, people have used poor players around him which would be a valid point if routledge wasn't managing to pick out these poor players on such a regular basis. Jonas is excellent at carrying a ball, he just doesn't know when to release. That being said I am more than happy if we have to "settle" for him as our first choice left winger next season. He improved a lot when Routledge came in as a lot of defensive focus was taken off him. His final product is nowhere near as good as Routledge's (on the basis of the last half season) even if he is much better at a lot of things. I think Jonas has had a decent season, he was poor a lot of the time pre-Jan though, several times at the start of the season didn't look as though he gave a f***. Seems to have got into it again though, fair play to him, could be essential next season. In the first half of the season, the opposition would have 3 players on Jonas because they did not have to worry about our right side. Once Routledge arrived, they couldn't do that any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 has anyone seen him play much for argentina. i've seen 3 or 4 of his games and he is a completly different player. Definitely seems to benefit from playing with more movement around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 His passing on the floor, when he has runners, is surprisingly accurate. His crossing is poor though. Considering his preferred position is on his weaker side, I'm not surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted May 1, 2010 Share Posted May 1, 2010 Am I the only person who remembers just how awful he was in the Prem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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