Guest Mantis Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 What exactly does Llambias do at the club. Does he speak? Does he do owt? Ashley is paying him then having to do his job of sorting a manager out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 agreed. its dead. the point is, why didnt they meet in a remote location? instead of londons west end?? Ashley seems to prefer London, it makes me wonder why he bought a club so far from London then try to run it from such a distance. surely to god, for the fans sake, and the sake of the club, they should have met somehwere that wouldnt have been found out though? Maybe it was important to ashley to be seen to be trying to make an effort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 if ashley wasn't prepared to resolve the outstanding issues then i don't know why either party even bothered to turn up. that would be a complete waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 surely to god, for the fans sake, and the sake of the club, they should have met somehwere that wouldnt have been found out though? You would have thought so, obviously they didn't unless the reaction wasn't expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dennis Wise & Derek Llambias are stopping Kevin Keegan from bieng our manager. Take a step back and read that sentance again. What an utter shambolic, disgusting, unholy disgrace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 agreed. its dead. the point is, why didnt they meet in a remote location? instead of londons west end?? Ashley seems to prefer London, it makes me wonder why he bought a club so far from London then try to run it from such a distance. surely to god, for the fans sake, and the sake of the club, they should have met somehwere that wouldnt have been found out though? Maybe it was important to ashley to be seen to be trying to make an effort surely keegan would have seen through that? and asked for a meeting elsewhere? bit bizarre if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest northwestmag1892 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 What exactly does Llambias do at the club. Does he speak? Does he do owt? Ashley is paying him then having to do his job of sorting a manager out. Totally agree. I put a large percentage of the blame at Llambias's door - maybe Ashley thought he could stay in the US and that Llambias would do the job he is paid to do and sort out the issues. And when Ashley returns the whole thing has gone tits up (yes I know he would have known that from internet/contacts) and he has to intervene. Still looks like he's backing the fucking idiots in Llambias and Wise though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dennis Wise & Derek Llambias are stopping Kevin Keegan from bieng our manager. Take a step back and read that sentance again. What an utter shambolic, disgusting, unholy disgrace. No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 agreed. its dead. the point is, why didnt they meet in a remote location? instead of londons west end?? Ashley seems to prefer London, it makes me wonder why he bought a club so far from London then try to run it from such a distance. surely to god, for the fans sake, and the sake of the club, they should have met somehwere that wouldnt have been found out though? Maybe it was important to ashley to be seen to be trying to make an effort surely keegan would have seen through that? and asked for a meeting elsewhere? bit bizarre if you ask me. Maybe Keegan never had any intention of going back but agreed to the public meeting konwing that when it came out that no agreement had been made, it dropped ashley further in the shit for not being able to sort it out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dennis Wise & Derek Llambias are stopping Kevin Keegan from bieng our manager. Take a step back and read that sentance again. What an utter shambolic, disgusting, unholy disgrace. No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. They undermined him. Dennis Wise is not a qualified enough person to make signings for Kevin Keegan to say the least, Keegan rightly does not want that, its a simple choice, and Wise is the choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dennis Wise & Derek Llambias are stopping Kevin Keegan from bieng our manager. Take a step back and read that sentance again. What an utter shambolic, disgusting, unholy disgrace. No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. They undermined him. Dennis Wise is not a qualified enough person to make signings for Kevin Keegan to say the least, Keegan rightly does not want that, its a simple choice, and Wise is the choice. I agree, but on the other hand Keegan should never have come back under this system, he knows how it works as he was a DOF himself. To put ALL of the blame on Ashley and co is ridiculous, Keegan played his part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I fail to see what Wise has done wrong and subsequently don't hate him. In this situation I blame Keegan more so as 4 games in hes dropped us right in the shite, nice way to show you care Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. A managers job depends on how the players perform, he has every right to have a say in the recruitment process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest northwestmag1892 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dennis Wise & Derek Llambias are stopping Kevin Keegan from bieng our manager. Take a step back and read that sentance again. What an utter shambolic, disgusting, unholy disgrace. No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. Totally missed the point. Since when is Dennis Wise worthy of lacing KK's boots never mind choosing who he must sign. FI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. A managers job depends on how the players perform, he has every right to have a say in the recruitment process. He shouldn't have come back under this system then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucasUnger Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 after reading all 26 pages i'm quite tired going to my xbox 360 playin fifa 08 anyone want a game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I agree, but on the other hand Keegan should never have come back under this system, he knows how it works as he was a DOF himself. To put ALL of the blame on Ashley and co is ridiculous, Keegan played his part. According to everything which was said until early last week, Keegan did have a say on transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dennis Wise & Derek Llambias are stopping Kevin Keegan from bieng our manager. Take a step back and read that sentance again. What an utter shambolic, disgusting, unholy disgrace. No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. Totally missed the point. Since when is Dennis Wise worthy of lacing KK's boots never mind choosing who he must sign. FI. I didn't miss the point, i was saying that's it's factually incorrect, which it is. It's another example of the hyerbole surrounding this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest northwestmag1892 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dennis Wise & Derek Llambias are stopping Kevin Keegan from bieng our manager. Take a step back and read that sentance again. What an utter shambolic, disgusting, unholy disgrace. No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. They undermined him. Dennis Wise is not a qualified enough person to make signings for Kevin Keegan to say the least, Keegan rightly does not want that, its a simple choice, and Wise is the choice. I agree, but on the other hand Keegan should never have come back under this system, he knows how it works as he was a DOF himself. To put ALL of the blame on Ashley and co is ridiculous, Keegan played his part. What system though? I thought KK was appointed before Wise was. And how confident are we that this "system" was part of the offer when KK came on board? Specsavers for you I feel... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dennis Wise & Derek Llambias are stopping Kevin Keegan from bieng our manager. Take a step back and read that sentance again. What an utter shambolic, disgusting, unholy disgrace. No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. They undermined him. Dennis Wise is not a qualified enough person to make signings for Kevin Keegan to say the least, Keegan rightly does not want that, its a simple choice, and Wise is the choice. I agree, but on the other hand Keegan should never have come back under this system, he knows how it works as he was a DOF himself. To put ALL of the blame on Ashley and co is ridiculous, Keegan played his part. "My job is to scout the world and recommend players to Kevin, Kevin makes the signings, he has the final say" ... Deadline day comes & 2 players are brought in that Keegan did not want. Lied to, under-mined, Wise should pay for it. But even after this disgrace, he is chosen over Keegan. Words cant do it anymore... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I fail to see what Wise has done wrong and subsequently don't hate him. In this situation I blame Keegan more so as 4 games in hes dropped us right in the s****, nice way to show you care Kev. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dennis Wise & Derek Llambias are stopping Kevin Keegan from bieng our manager. Take a step back and read that sentance again. What an utter shambolic, disgusting, unholy disgrace. No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. They undermined him. Dennis Wise is not a qualified enough person to make signings for Kevin Keegan to say the least, Keegan rightly does not want that, its a simple choice, and Wise is the choice. I agree, but on the other hand Keegan should never have come back under this system, he knows how it works as he was a DOF himself. To put ALL of the blame on Ashley and co is ridiculous, Keegan played his part. What system though? I thought KK was appointed before Wise was. And how confident are we that this "system" was part of the offer when KK came on board? Specsavers for you I feel... The DOF system that Keegan claims he spoke about with Ashley before signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 He shouldn't have come back under this system then. The system appears to have changed recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest northwestmag1892 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dennis Wise & Derek Llambias are stopping Kevin Keegan from bieng our manager. Take a step back and read that sentance again. What an utter shambolic, disgusting, unholy disgrace. No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. Totally missed the point. Since when is Dennis Wise worthy of lacing KK's boots never mind choosing who he must sign. FI. I didn't miss the point, i was saying that's it's factually incorrect, which it is. It's another example of the hyerbole surrounding this. As I said earlier, FI... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 The DOF system that Keegan claims he spoke about with Ashley before signing. Nobody doubts that the system was to be brought in, the doubts are over how the system was to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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