LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 Mate, you are aware Australia is a first world nation aren't you? Fancy a chat about NHS v Medicare? Yes and so is the UK. I wouldn't go to Australia to have my ankle looked at just like you wouldn't come to the UK to have your ankle looked at. Anyway, I'm not talking about the NHS. Can you imagine a footballer on a six month waiting list for an operation? People are talking bollocks. Private e.g. BUPA hospitals (like the one's who do all the player medicals for transfers) is where these players go. Are people trying to tell me the UK isn't one of the top 10 countries for medicine? Don't be silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 30, 2008 Share Posted September 30, 2008 It must be starting to get warm over there. Perfect BBQ weather I expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dev Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Mate, you are aware Australia is a first world nation aren't you? Fancy a chat about NHS v Medicare? Yes and so is the UK. I wouldn't go to Australia to have my ankle looked at just like you wouldn't come to the UK to have your ankle looked at. Anyway, I'm not talking about the NHS. Can you imagine a footballer on a six month waiting list for an operation? People are talking bollocks. Private e.g. BUPA hospitals (like the one's who do all the player medicals for transfers) is where these players go. Are people trying to tell me the UK isn't one of the top 10 countries for medicine? Don't be silly. With Newcastle's diabolical injury record I doubt you would trust your injury to the assessment of the Toon physios either! Its quite incredible that we regularly have half our first team out to injury, and it seems no-one has bothered to take a look at our medical setup. Australian NT physio setup = top drawer. When you only have 11 good players you want to make sure they're all fit. Its a broad generalisation, but I think the focus of most physio rooms in English clubs is to get the players back out on the pitch ASAP, without regard for longer term issues. Owen would be the classic example of this. Every time he broke down, either his club or NT physios would shove him back out there regardless of whether he was likely to break down again within 2 games. It's quite a shambles that we pay Owen and Viduka about 200k each week, but seem to have stinged on a medical department to keep them out on the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Quality signing by Fat Sam, not like we all knew about his 'injury' record. Cant see him in a toon shirt before March, expect he'll spend another xmas in Oz. Anyone got the stats for his total amount of appearences/possible appearances? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I never understand why these injured players go abroad for treatment. Jonas to Argentina, Viduka to Australia, Martins goes to Itay, etc. Surely the UK is one of the most medically advanced countries in the world. As for Viduka, he won't be getting a new contract. Depending on which league we're in and who owns us I can see NUFC are going to have to do some major striker shopping in the next year with Viduka, Ameobi and Owen's contracts all expiring. well its quite easy to explain, the best possible care, is usually found abroad... what did you think? that all of the best doctors/physios in the world live in england? dream on m8 and its probably cheaper as well to send them abroad To be fair, there are far better medical systems abroad if you have the cash imo. I'm sure our players could afford to go private. Yes I know other countries will have top doctors/physios but come on, a shoulder injury requires a South American doctor? It's not like they're going for a new, experimental treatment. I agree to a degree, but for some things, some specialists mean you need to go abroad. I agree with what you say but isn't it funny how all these specialists happen to be in the home country of the injured player (or in Martins case, where he used to live). The likes of going to see Dr. Richard Steadman for knee injuries I can accept. Mate, you are aware Australia is a first world nation aren't you? Fancy a chat about NHS v Medicare? Besides which, it's common sense to go to a doctor you trust, with whom you have had positive results previously. But the sad truth is that the closest epithet for Viduka came from djmattis: Hes finished. Or the real fact, he was finished when he left Boro. He was a risk signing that could have work perfectly, or not. To me he was not a waste of money, could have done wonders if he only could shake of his injuries. He is indeed finished as a top class footballer - even the Arab leagues would ask too much of the big fella these days. Was he finished when he left Boro, hmmm... maybe. He put in a few good performances, but simply not enough. It was a gamble, it failed - to all the haters, who do you hate? Viduka for accepting the contract offered to him? Roeder for making the gamble? Shepherd for backing Roeder's relatively inexpensive bet? It was Allardyce who signed him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php?SKEY=97fd8d78393cff8aa494780f71dfd88f Now listed as "No return date." May not play at all this season if he's having to go to get the muscle re-assessed, it may have degenerated too far for his age to successfully comeback from this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Hope his plane crashes, claim the insurance money from the fat greedy soulless lazy ozzie scum bag bastards death. I'm pretty sure you forgot to put a wink at the end of that pretty sure he didnt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluegeordie Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 It must be starting to get warm over there. Perfect BBQ weather I expect. Believe it or not, the forecast is for 35 degrees Celsius in my part of Sydney tomorrow, and we're still only 1 month into spring! No need to even light the barbie - just place the fucker in the sun for a few minutes and start cooking. Closer to the topic, whilst there are obviously very good doctors in both the UK and Australia, the latter do have an excellent international reputation for treating sports injuries, especially knees and hamstrings apparently (not sure what the situation is with achilles tendons). It probably has something to do with the national obsession with sport over here (which sees it attract significant levels of state funding), and also the high casualty rate associated with the more popular football codes in Oz. In this context, I think that Harry Kewell's much-improved appearance record since belatedly coming home to Australia to have his long term injuries seen to is suggestive. Btw, none of what I've written above should be taken to mean that I don't share everyone else's frustration over the Viduka situation ... or their suspicions that the FAB will magically return to fitness, and find some tantalizing form, as the end of his contract draws near. We shall see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 a winter in Newcastle, fighting relegation, a summer in australia, sunbathing, and drinking fosters, cant understand why anyone would choose the second one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparta Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Mate, you are aware Australia is a first world nation aren't you? Fancy a chat about NHS v Medicare? Yes and so is the UK. I wouldn't go to Australia to have my ankle looked at just like you wouldn't come to the UK to have your ankle looked at. Anyway, I'm not talking about the NHS. Can you imagine a footballer on a six month waiting list for an operation? People are talking bollocks. Private e.g. BUPA hospitals (like the one's who do all the player medicals for transfers) is where these players go. Are people trying to tell me the UK isn't one of the top 10 countries for medicine? Don't be silly. oook... im telling you, UK is not one in the top 10 countries in the world.... when it comes to medicine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 A total WOFT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Mate, you are aware Australia is a first world nation aren't you? Fancy a chat about NHS v Medicare? Yes and so is the UK. I wouldn't go to Australia to have my ankle looked at just like you wouldn't come to the UK to have your ankle looked at. Anyway, I'm not talking about the NHS. Can you imagine a footballer on a six month waiting list for an operation? People are talking bollocks. Private e.g. BUPA hospitals (like the one's who do all the player medicals for transfers) is where these players go. Are people trying to tell me the UK isn't one of the top 10 countries for medicine? Don't be silly. oook... im telling you, UK is not one in the top 10 countries in the world.... when it comes to medicine Beat me to it. LoveIt - I would have thought the might have signified I was being somewhat facetious, taking the piss out of your ingorance and jingoism. Of course professional sportsmen get private medical attention. I was just amused by someone from a nation of mediocre health care trying to dismiss the average health care found in said sportsman's home country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Mate, you are aware Australia is a first world nation aren't you? Fancy a chat about NHS v Medicare? Yes and so is the UK. I wouldn't go to Australia to have my ankle looked at just like you wouldn't come to the UK to have your ankle looked at. Anyway, I'm not talking about the NHS. Can you imagine a footballer on a six month waiting list for an operation? People are talking bollocks. Private e.g. BUPA hospitals (like the one's who do all the player medicals for transfers) is where these players go. Are people trying to tell me the UK isn't one of the top 10 countries for medicine? Don't be silly. oook... im telling you, UK is not one in the top 10 countries in the world.... when it comes to medicine there will be some things we have speciailists in the UK who are top in their filed, for other things the aussies will have the top people in their field. however unless he is going to see a world renowned specialist i don't see the pointing of him going round the world to see someone when he could get just as good in the UK or europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Mate, you are aware Australia is a first world nation aren't you? Fancy a chat about NHS v Medicare? Yes and so is the UK. I wouldn't go to Australia to have my ankle looked at just like you wouldn't come to the UK to have your ankle looked at. Anyway, I'm not talking about the NHS. Can you imagine a footballer on a six month waiting list for an operation? People are talking bollocks. Private e.g. BUPA hospitals (like the one's who do all the player medicals for transfers) is where these players go. Are people trying to tell me the UK isn't one of the top 10 countries for medicine? Don't be silly. oook... im telling you, UK is not one in the top 10 countries in the world.... when it comes to medicine there will be some things we have speciailists in the UK who are top in their filed, for other things the aussies will have the top people in their field. however unless he is going to see a world renowned specialist i don't see the pointing of him going round the world to see someone when he could get just as good in the UK or europe. "Chuck another shrimp on the barbie Sheila" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Mate, you are aware Australia is a first world nation aren't you? Fancy a chat about NHS v Medicare? Yes and so is the UK. I wouldn't go to Australia to have my ankle looked at just like you wouldn't come to the UK to have your ankle looked at. Anyway, I'm not talking about the NHS. Can you imagine a footballer on a six month waiting list for an operation? People are talking bollocks. Private e.g. BUPA hospitals (like the one's who do all the player medicals for transfers) is where these players go. Are people trying to tell me the UK isn't one of the top 10 countries for medicine? Don't be silly. oook... im telling you, UK is not one in the top 10 countries in the world.... when it comes to medicine there will be some things we have speciailists in the UK who are top in their filed, for other things the aussies will have the top people in their field. however unless he is going to see a world renowned specialist i don't see the pointing of him going round the world to see someone when he could get just as good in the UK or europe. "Chuck another shrimp on the barbie Sheila" "stick some pease pudding on the savaloy dip man" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Mate, you are aware Australia is a first world nation aren't you? Fancy a chat about NHS v Medicare? Yes and so is the UK. I wouldn't go to Australia to have my ankle looked at just like you wouldn't come to the UK to have your ankle looked at. Anyway, I'm not talking about the NHS. Can you imagine a footballer on a six month waiting list for an operation? People are talking bollocks. Private e.g. BUPA hospitals (like the one's who do all the player medicals for transfers) is where these players go. Are people trying to tell me the UK isn't one of the top 10 countries for medicine? Don't be silly. oook... im telling you, UK is not one in the top 10 countries in the world.... when it comes to medicine Beat me to it. LoveIt - I would have thought the might have signified I was being somewhat facetious, taking the piss out of your ingorance and jingoism. Of course professional sportsmen get private medical attention. I was just amused by someone from a nation of mediocre health care trying to dismiss the average health care found in said sportsman's home country. It's funny how I get called ignorant (I noticed the irony that you spelt "ignorance" incorrectly) and a jingoist merely because I think that Britain (as one of the richest countries in the world) has comparable medical experts and facilities to other developed nations. At no point did I say British medical people/facilities are 'better' than Australian ones. The point was, why send someone half way round the world to have his ankle looked at? Stupid argument anyway but can someone list the most advanced medical nations then? I'm sure it will include the likes of USA, Germany, Britain, Australia, Switzerland, South Africa, Japan, Canada, France, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 From the BBC rumour page this morning... Australian outfit Melbourne Heat are hoping to make injured Newcastle striker Mark Viduka, 32, their marquee signing at the end of the season. (The Times) This another reason for him heading back to Australia for treatment? Maybe their medics want to check the injury over? EDIT: This is the snippet from The Times.... Injured Viduka attracts interest Mark Viduka is no nearer to making a return for Newcastle United from an Achilles tendon injury, but his fitness problems have not prevented an Australian club expressing an interest in signing the burly striker. The 32-year-old is out of contract at the end of this season — Newcastle are unlikely to exercise a one-year extension on his deal — and Melbourne Heat, the prospective A-League franchise, are hoping to make Viduka, right, their marquee signing. I thought he'd signed a 3 year deal when he joined, but seems he could be away in the summer anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovineblue Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 From the BBC rumour page this morning... Australian outfit Melbourne Heat are hoping to make injured Newcastle striker Mark Viduka, 32, their marquee signing at the end of the season. (The Times) Surely they mean Melbourne Victory? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Mate, you are aware Australia is a first world nation aren't you? Fancy a chat about NHS v Medicare? Yes and so is the UK. I wouldn't go to Australia to have my ankle looked at just like you wouldn't come to the UK to have your ankle looked at. Anyway, I'm not talking about the NHS. Can you imagine a footballer on a six month waiting list for an operation? People are talking bollocks. Private e.g. BUPA hospitals (like the one's who do all the player medicals for transfers) is where these players go. Are people trying to tell me the UK isn't one of the top 10 countries for medicine? Don't be silly. oook... im telling you, UK is not one in the top 10 countries in the world.... when it comes to medicine there will be some things we have speciailists in the UK who are top in their filed, for other things the aussies will have the top people in their field. however unless he is going to see a world renowned specialist i don't see the pointing of him going round the world to see someone when he could get just as good in the UK or europe. Yeah, Australia leads the world in medicines research Australia has very few top surgeons or doctors, the UK is packed full with pioneering scientists and clinical trials. Cant believe an aussie is comparing the PBAC-led backwater that is australian medicine to the UK. NICE pays far more per outcome than PBAC ever will. Thats on account of having more money to spend. Viduka went home because he wants to, no other reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 Mate, you are aware Australia is a first world nation aren't you? Fancy a chat about NHS v Medicare? Yes and so is the UK. I wouldn't go to Australia to have my ankle looked at just like you wouldn't come to the UK to have your ankle looked at. Anyway, I'm not talking about the NHS. Can you imagine a footballer on a six month waiting list for an operation? People are talking bollocks. Private e.g. BUPA hospitals (like the one's who do all the player medicals for transfers) is where these players go. Are people trying to tell me the UK isn't one of the top 10 countries for medicine? Don't be silly. oook... im telling you, UK is not one in the top 10 countries in the world.... when it comes to medicine Beat me to it. LoveIt - I would have thought the might have signified I was being somewhat facetious, taking the piss out of your ingorance and jingoism. Of course professional sportsmen get private medical attention. I was just amused by someone from a nation of mediocre health care trying to dismiss the average health care found in said sportsman's home country. It's funny how I get called ignorant (I noticed the irony that you spelt "ignorance" incorrectly) and a jingoist merely because I think that Britain (as one of the richest countries in the world) has comparable medical experts and facilities to other developed nations. At no point did I say British medical people/facilities are 'better' than Australian ones. The point was, why send someone half way round the world to have his ankle looked at? Stupid argument anyway but can someone list the most advanced medical nations then? I'm sure it will include the likes of USA, Germany, Britain, Australia, Switzerland, South Africa, Japan, Canada, France, etc. I said to my GP in Berlin today that I was "coming to the conclusion that the German health system is completely mad." He replied: "You're an intelligent fellow. Why has it taken you so long to figure this out?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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