Guest Jawesome Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Shit argument is... [move]SHIT[/move] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 There's offensive chanting at most footy matches. That's hardly news tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 What is bigotry? Abusing someone on the basis of their nationality. Didn't you follow the quotes? Clearly not. FWIW yes it's still bigotry, but I don't feel it's anywhere near the same level. The australian bit or the Mido bit? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,58121.msg1586637.html#msg1586637 The Australian bit. I was merely pointing out that abusing someone on the basis of their race is not the same as abusing someone on the basis of their nationality, even though both are examples of bigotry. Geddit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 But it's ok to call all people from Middlesbrough pedophiles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I give up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I give up. I've skipped all 6 pages man. I just wanted to make sure so I never lost any sleep that's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 What is bigotry? Abusing someone on the basis of their nationality. Didn't you follow the quotes? Clearly not. FWIW yes it's still bigotry, but I don't feel it's anywhere near the same level. The australian bit or the Mido bit? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,58121.msg1586637.html#msg1586637 The Australian bit. I was merely pointing out that abusing someone on the basis of their race is not the same as abusing someone on the basis of their nationality, even though both are examples of bigotry. Geddit? I do. Don't get uppity, just wanted to understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Apologies, I didn't mean to sound that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Apologies, I didn't mean to sound that way. Dave I'm surprised he thought that about you, especially as in the past you've shown a lot of intolerance towards people who don't seem to get things or make grammatical errors. Not sure why he would think that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Nope. nope what ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Apologies, I didn't mean to sound that way. Dave I'm surprised he thought that about you, especially as in the past you've shown a lot of intolerance towards people who don't seem to get things or make grammatical errors. Not sure why he would think that. TBF to Dave, it wasn't that bad. I suppose sometimes the written word doesn't always come over how you mean it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Apologies, I didn't mean to sound that way. Dave I'm surprised he thought that about you, especially as in the past you've shown a lot of intolerance towards people who don't seem to get things or make grammatical errors. Not sure why he would think that. Yer what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Apologies, I didn't mean to sound that way. Dave I'm surprised he thought that about you, especially as in the past you've shown a lot of intolerance towards people who don't seem to get things or make grammatical errors. Not sure why he would think that. TBF to Dave, it wasn't that bad. I suppose sometimes the written word doesn't always come over how you mean it. Fight the power as Chuck D once said. Don't bow down to the man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Wise Guy Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I didnt hear anything that sound like any racists chats during the time when Mido got on or when he was playing, but if the reports are to be true, then I would be very disappointed with our fans who did it. But then again, it could also be from their own fans who are just putting the blame on us for their actions. Hopefully such a thing doesnt happen again whether it is during our match or any other match. We all are created equal and should be treated as such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 It was so un-Ridz-like until that last sentence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Did anyone die in this round of chanting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Everyone else is wrong and we are right of course. Let's do the Mido chants at our ground as well, it would be such a laugh to hear 40,000 singing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Everyone else is wrong and we are right of course. Let's do the Mido chants at our ground as well, it would be such a laugh to hear 40,000 singing it Everyone else? I'm not bowing to the man, just understanding him. Now where's that wipe gone, I need to get the shit off my nose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Just to get this back on track again. Where is all our "islamaphobic" chanting at other muslim players, if of course, we are all islamaphobics? There are loads of muslim players in the premiership, Emre is a muslim and I never heard any racist chanting from the bigots in the East stand at him when he was at the club. Wheees Keeeeys Louise made a great effort last year to brand us all a bunch of racists, despite her not being able to get the joke that the poor bugger at the Riverside looks like a well-known terrorist. Maybe if she investigated her journalism a little bit more we would never have been in this whole crap situation. The FA want to have a look at real problems in football, such as Mackems throwing coins into the away support at the derby match, pitch invasions etc before going all hypo on some chanting that I'm pretty sure none of the people who did chant meant to be a racist slur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I just can't bellieve that no-one picked up on our past racist bile hurled at Jimmy Floyd, after all 'Just a fat Eddie Murphy' was obviously thrown his way because he is black and so is Eddie Murphy. On a more serious note, regardless of the nature of the chanting it is close to the bone for a lot of people and its no surprise that some quarters have lumped it as being racist, I'd wager that (giving the benefit of doubt to the songs creator) the original target was his likeness to RR, but a number of fans were chanting it thinking that it was aimed at him being an 'arab' (that seems to be the term banded about by borderline racists for anyone not from Britain these days). Unfortunately we can't do anything about these individuals unless you can identify them all indivudally. Until then maybe the song should be shelved for the greater good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I just can't bellieve that no-one picked up on our past racist bile hurled at Jimmy Floyd, after all 'Just a fat Eddie Murphy' was obviously thrown his way because he is black and so is Eddie Murphy. On a more serious note, regardless of the nature of the chanting it is close to the bone for a lot of people and its no surprise that some quarters have lumped it as being racist, I'd wager that (giving the benefit of doubt to the songs creator) the original target was his likeness to RR, but a number of fans were chanting it thinking that it was aimed at him being an 'arab' (that seems to be the term banded about by borderline racists for anyone not from Britain these days). Unfortunately we can't do anything about these individuals unless you can identify them all indivudally. Until then maybe the song should be shelved for the greater good? After the fuss made last year I'd be amazed if anyone was unaware that it get dredged up again if the bomb chants were repeated. That's why I don't accept it was innocent banter, at best it was downright stupid everything considered, which is why I don't see the need to bend over backwards defending such daft actions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericz Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 -sigh- Why can't sports be civilized and cultured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 -sigh- Why can't sports be civilized and cultured? How boring would that be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 -sigh- Why can't sports be civilized and cultured? Why would we want that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 -sigh- Why can't sports be civilized and cultured? you have to be civilised to all manner of arseholes, customers, when at work, the match is your chance to give some shit back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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