Dr Venkman Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I thought he did much better today, yes he should have scored at least one, but he was involved more than he has been the last 5/6 games. I wouldnt say he is past it (although he certainly isn't the same as he was a few years ago) as much as he isn't utilised in the best way. I would love to see him stay, but I wouldn't be opposed to cashing in on him asap as the former is not going to happen. In many ways his decision was a low blow, given our support of him, we deserved a decision one way or the other by now to get money back on him. That said, I'm sure he also thinks its a loyal thing to stick it out to the end of the season, but money or clubwise I doubt many people would do different though in his position. Like losing Given, the impact on the pitch would be alot less influenced than off it and around the club. There is a huge sway of belief that either of these two leaving would see a mass mutiny and exodous. Tbh I can't see anyone walking that we couldnt aptdly replace. Butt - leave N'Zogbia - possible loss, but one a long time coming, not convinced he would leave unless he is guarenteed first team slots every week. Viduka - gone in the summer anyway, like butt Oba - whilst, it would be a bad sign of our intent going forward, he would get more games guarenteed, which is his only gripe, I dont think he would leave immediately. Duff- I doubt he would leave unless he was pushed, the few that would be interested wouldnt match his wages anyway If anything its a sign we are willing to have people that want to bring this club back where we want it to be, although the press will call it a mass walk out etc.. Long story short, I dont think there is anyone likely to leave that we couldnt (although kinnear wont find or attract them) replace. butt's been offered a new contract I know, wasn't it part of his previous contract and performance based? regardless, he more than anyone in our squad is a player I'd expect to think about leaving, should we sell Given/Owen. Just because we have offered him an extension and we dont think he deserves it, doesnt mean he wants the extension. i'll be staggered if he doesn't sign it tbh, he probably knows he's finished as well hope to f*** he doesn't sign mind heard butt say a number of times he wants to spend the rest of his career at newcastle. as far as i'm aware butt's already seen out the end of his career at nufc, he ceased to be anything resembling a professional footballer about a year ago, if not longer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 If Martins and Viduka are out long term then it would be the worse decision ever to sell Owen in january. Unless we are preparing for the championship already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I would have said yes if we were in the top 8/7 with a decent enough squad of players to cope without him. Given our currrent situation I would say we need to keep all the players we have and then add some. Deal with it at the end of the season. I dont think you would get much for him in the window anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Would rather keep him until the end of the season and let him walk on a free than get a few bob for him this month. His goals will keep this football club in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 This says he has shaken hands on a move to Man City in the summer. http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/79264 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 This says he has shaken hands on a move to Man City in the summer. http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/79264 This may turn out as true, but can you point out anywhere in that article where it is not just speculation. There is nothing quoted from anyone, Citeh, Owen, agents or anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 This says he has shaken hands on a move to Man City in the summer. http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/79264 This may turn out as true, but can you point out anywhere in that article where it is not just speculation. There is nothing quoted from anyone, Citeh, Owen, agents or anyone. True, it is the Express after all! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 This says he has shaken hands on a move to Man City in the summer. http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/79264 I may be wrong but I thought that they was some agreement where you had to wait till the end of the season before you could talk to another premier league team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 This says he has shaken hands on a move to Man City in the summer. http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/79264 I may be wrong but I thought that they was some agreement where you had to wait till the end of the season before you could talk to another premier league team. officially yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Seems strange, why cut his options. The whole point in him staying until the end of the season was to assess his options. Pretty sad if its true, when we could have cashed in on him now. I'd much rather that happened than get nothing for him in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VegasToon Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Doubt its true. If Man City really wanted him they would bid for him now. Why wait? I thought money was no object to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Michael has said/wrote he has shown his commitment to Newcastle United by NOT signing a contract & staying till the summer what more can he do? His preferred club of choice is Cheltenham as Kempton don't have a pro team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 The whole situation is such a mess. Whether it's Man City or not, it certainly looks like he's looking for a move in the summer. In which case, is he really going to be risking injury by giving 100% in the last half of the season? There's bound to be doubts in people's minds, including his team mates. It makes me doubly angry because the club is only getting what it deserves. We were wrong in manipulating him into signing in the first place when he'd clearly stated his reluctance, and we should have sold him at the start of the season once it became clear he didn't want to commit to a new contract. Instead we made him the captain. You couldn't write it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Michael Owen has defended himself following Jose Mourinho's claim that the Newcastle United captain "is no longer the Owen we all knew". Michael Owen has defended himself following Jose Mourinho's claim that the Newcastle United captain "is no longer the Owen we all knew". Owen, 29, hit back after the Inter Milan manager refuted reports he was interested in taking the striker to the San Siro because of the injuries that have blighted his time on Tyneside and curbed his penalty area prowess. "You can look at stats whichever way you want but in general I have had a good year really in terms of games and goals," Owen said. "I have only missed four in the last calendar year. Considering what is said about me, it can paint a false picture. Just to miss four games in a year is good and my goal ratio is good too, it has been a good year from that point of view." Owen has gone four games without a goal but still boasts a return of nine goals from 14 matches this term for struggling Newcastle who face West Ham today before hosting Hull in their FA Cup replay next Wednesday. He added: These are the important games, especially at home. We need to make them count. We need three points. It's a big week for us with the FA Cup replay coming up. "Two wins would be lovely. We'd be right up there bordering on mid-table and through to the next round of the Cup with a home tie to look forward to. "I had a couple of chances at Hull, one good and two half chances, I would normally expect to stick one of three away but it was not to be. Thankfully, we kept a clean sheet. "Now it's West Ham at home and hopefully we can create a few chances and I am always confident of sticking the ball in the back of the net." Owen is widely expected to leave Newcastle this summer after snubbing a contract offer and is grateful for the support the club's fans have shown him despite his delaying a final decision. "I appreciate reception I have had from fans," Owen added. "They are a big part of this club, more so than any other and all the lads are indebted to them for showing their support, but me more than anyone, right from the start when I first signed. "Despite some troubled times, it has been good since. It's fantastic to get their backing, I think they realise I have not said I want to go, I will fight for the cause, just like I did last season when a bit of a battle at the bottom." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/newcastle/4210123/Newcastles-Michael-Owen-rubbishes-Jose-Mourinho-claims.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Well sign a new contract then you tosser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 "I appreciate reception I have had from fans," Owen added. "They are a big part of this club, more so than any other and all the lads are indebted to them for showing their support, but me more than anyone, right from the start when I first signed." Why do I find this annoying and patronising. Smells of "praise the fans and they'll fall for it" - let's face it he's not botheed about us, or the club, or whatever club he plays for. I get the increasing impression he's playing for a) his England place (waste of time Mikey) and b) get funds for more horses. Rent a quote tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Michael has said/wrote he has shown his commitment to Newcastle United by NOT signing a contract & staying till the summer what more can he do? His preferred club of choice is Cheltenham as Kempton don't have a pro team. Been leaked that the reason he did that was he has a "gentlemans agreement to join Man City in Summer" - on Sky Sports News this morning. Apparently being a gentleman doesn't apply to his attitude towards NUFC.... Good striker, selfish tw*t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 These quotes are taken directly from the interview on World, and tbh, he seems very genuine in that sense. Why the hell would anyone believe actual quotes from Michael Owen above newspaper rumours? Get a grip man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 "I appreciate reception I have had from fans," Owen added. "They are a big part of this club, more so than any other and all the lads are indebted to them for showing their support, but me more than anyone, right from the start when I first signed." Why do I find this annoying and patronising. Smells of "praise the fans and they'll fall for it" - let's face it he's not botheed about us, or the club, or whatever club he plays for. I get the increasing impression he's playing for a) his England place (waste of time Mikey) and b) get funds for more horses. Rent a quote tbh. Thats exactly what your entire post is to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I don't pay a lot of attention to what Owen says tbh. He'll be going in the summer whatever he says or doesn't say. In the meantime if he scores a few goals for us great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edd Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I don't pay a lot of attention to what Owen says tbh. He'll be going in the summer whatever he says or doesn't say. In the meantime if he scores a few goals for us great. My thoughts exactly. At least he hasn't done what other players have and openly come out and said he wants to leave, especially at a time when we need everyone pulling in the same direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Owen could be next to Villa MARTIN O’NEILL has Emile Heskey in the bag — and Michael Owen as a possible summer target. The Aston Villa boss last night snapped up £3.5million striker Heskey, 31, on a 3½-year deal from Wigan. O’Neill then refused to rule out a move for hitman Owen, whose Newcastle contract runs out at the end of the season. That throws up the intriguing prospect of the ex-Liverpool pair renewing the partnership which brought them success at Anfield and with England. O’Neill said: “I’m not saying that I will move for Owen in the summer — I’ve not looked at anything at that remote a distance. “But that’s not to say Michael Owen is not a terrific player. We wait to see. Anything is possible. Kaka is a possibility! “We want to try to compete at this level but what’s happening in the future? I have no idea.” Owen, 29, earns £110,000 a week on Tyneside and wants £150,000 a week from his next deal when he will be a free agent. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article2166603.ece?OTC-RSS&ATTR=Football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 As the number people paying for season tickets will drop dramatically next season because the team is shite & the crunch, we need to let Michael Owen go as he absorbs to many £££'s. Shame as I like him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Owen, 29, earns £110,000 a week on Tyneside and wants £150,000 a week from his next deal when he will be a free agent. I doubt that to be honest. I think he'll go to Aston Villa or Man City for a huge pay cut but better chances of playing in Europe and winning something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Owen, 29, earns £110,000 a week on Tyneside and wants £150,000 a week from his next deal when he will be a free agent. I doubt that to be honest. I think he'll go to Aston Villa or Man City for a huge pay cut but better chances of playing in Europe and winning something. Yep, I reckon his next contract will be less than even we've offered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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