Optimistic Nut Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 97/98 season was when I really felt it was squeeky bum time btw. For a brief moment that is. I think 2006/7 was the worst. If we'd lost that game at Sheff Utd, I really think we'd have went down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 97/98 season was when I really felt it was squeeky bum time btw. For a brief moment that is. you could argue shepherd acted too early at times but too his (and the boards) credit at least action was always taken and the unthinkable avoided, has to be said Sacking Dalglish in August '99 was his worst decision imo. He'd just built a half-decent side and signed the likes of Dabizas, Speed, Hamann, Given & Solano, had drawn at Chelsea 1-1, and then was sacked! I think had he hung on to Dalglish he'd have done a good job in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 You really felt worse under those two than now? Honestly? Yes, we had players fighting on the pitch and getting sent off, a player calling the manager a liar on National TV while plumetting down the league. I don't think I've watched a match yet and felt as bad as I did the day Birmingham pissed all over us at home in the cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 You really felt worse under those two than now? Honestly? Yes, we had players fighting on the pitch and getting sent off, a player calling the manager a liar on National TV while plumetting down the league. I don't think I've watched a match yet and felt as bad as I did the day Birmingham pissed all over us at home in the cup. said earlier on people have forgotten how bad things were at times, fuck me that's just made me one of them jesus christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Losing at home to Sheff Utd with Rossi and Duff up front is still the worst I've felt in recent times at any one moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 97/98 season was when I really felt it was squeeky bum time btw. For a brief moment that is. you could argue shepherd acted too early at times but too his (and the boards) credit at least action was always taken and the unthinkable avoided, has to be said Sacking Dalglish in August '99 was his worst decision imo. He'd just built a half-decent side and signed the likes of Dabizas, Speed, Hamann, Given & Solano, had drawn at Chelsea 1-1, and then was sacked! I think had he hung on to Dalglish he'd have done a good job in the end. perhaps, but nothing dalglish has subsequently done since suggests so...he couldn't even cut it with barnes at celtic, but yeah you might be right...had dalglish got the chance to get some proper time with shearer things might have been different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Losing at home to Sheff Utd with Rossi and Duff up front is still the worst I've felt in recent times at any one moment. I should add that current times have run it very close though. The club lacks direction now more than I've ever known it to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 you could argue shepherd acted too early at times but too his (and the boards) credit at least action was always taken and the unthinkable avoided, has to be said He hasn't sacked a manager the same season that he appointed him, we could have ended up in that position with Allardyce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 you could argue shepherd acted too early at times but too his (and the boards) credit at least action was always taken and the unthinkable avoided, has to be said He hasn't sacked a manager the same season that he appointed him, we could have ended up in that position with Allardyce. true, i thought allardyce would've kept us up though, assuming he'd been given some backing in the january window...would've still been horrible shite but i don't think we'd have gone down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 said earlier on people have forgotten how bad things were at times, f*** me that's just made me one of them jesus christ Things are easy to forget considering the shit we're in now, it's a bit like having to choose between a heart attack and cancer. I can understand people forgetting when what happened back then doesn't cost us points this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 true, i thought allardyce would've kept us up though, assuming he'd been given some backing in the january window...would've still been horrible s**** but i don't think we'd have gone down Luckilly we didn't have to find out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 said earlier on people have forgotten how bad things were at times, f*** me that's just made me one of them jesus christ Things are easy to forget considering the shit we're in now, it's a bit like having to choose between a heart attack and cancer. I can understand people forgetting when what happened back then doesn't cost us points this season. guess it's more my mind is focused on other horrible bits that i just can't keep them all in!! the end of robsons tenure and the way the man was treated broke me for FS + the old board, there was no going back for me then...he deserved dignity and got pissed all over things like that make me forget the fighting on the pitch shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 97/98 season was when I really felt it was squeeky bum time btw. For a brief moment that is. I think 2006/7 was the worst. If we'd lost that game at Sheff Utd, I really think we'd have went down. Actually, if we'd lost at West Ham & Sheff Utd that season, which let's face it wouldn't have been totally unbelievable, the table would have ended... 13....West Ham..........44 pts 14....Man City.............42 pts 15....Sheff Utd............41 pts 16....Fulham................39 pts 17....Wigan..................38pts ------------------------------------ 18....NEWCASTLE.........37pts 19....Charlton...............34pts 20....Watford................28pts Now personally, I find that a lot scarier, to think 2 simple reversals would have seen us relegated, than now where there's still loads of football to be played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Actually, if we'd lost at West Ham & Sheff Utd that season, which let's face it wouldn't have been totally unbelievable, the table would have ended... 13....West Ham..........44 pts 14....Man City.............42 pts 15....Sheff Utd............41 pts 16....Fulham................39 pts 17....Wigan..................38pts ------------------------------------ 18....NEWCASTLE.........37pts 19....Charlton...............34pts 20....Watford................28pts Now personally, I find that a lot scarier, to think 2 simple reversals would have seen us relegated, than now where there's still loads of football to be played. I can still understand why some people are more worried now as no matter what happens we'll not go back in time and get relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Yeah I can definitely see why people are worried, but we've been in worse positions at later stages of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Yeah I can definitely see why people are worried, but we've been in worse positions at later stages of the season. I'll be honest, our current situation has me shitting bricks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Yeah I can definitely see why people are worried, but we've been in worse positions at later stages of the season. Probably because we haven't been in this position during this time of the season before. Not that I can remember anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniatmoko Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Yeah I can definitely see why people are worried, but we've been in worse positions at later stages of the season. I'll be honest, our current situation has me shitting bricks. i really can't imagine a square arse hole really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Yeah I can definitely see why people are worried, but we've been in worse positions at later stages of the season. Probably because we haven't been in this position during this time of the season before. Not that I can remember anyway. 2006-7 after 16 games with a game-in-hand (pretty much the same as now), we'd just beat Reading 3-2 to go to 16 points, just 2 points above the relegation zone. Almost identical to this position, but I think unlike that season, we've got the goals in us to get us comfortably safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Yeah I can definitely see why people are worried, but we've been in worse positions at later stages of the season. Probably because we haven't been in this position during this time of the season before. Not that I can remember anyway. 2006-7 after 16 games with a game-in-hand (pretty much the same as now), we'd just beat Reading 3-2 to go to 16 points, just 2 points above the relegation zone. Almost identical to this position, but I think unlike that season, we've got the goals in us to get us comfortably safe. Fucking hell, shows how bad my memory is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Yeah I can definitely see why people are worried, but we've been in worse positions at later stages of the season. Probably because we haven't been in this position during this time of the season before. Not that I can remember anyway. 2006-7 after 16 games with a game-in-hand (pretty much the same as now), we'd just beat Reading 3-2 to go to 16 points, just 2 points above the relegation zone. Almost identical to this position, but I think unlike that season, we've got the goals in us to get us comfortably safe. f***ing hell, shows how bad my memory is. I cheated to be fair. http://toonstats.homestead.com/files/200607web.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 i dont think 06-07 was anywhere near as bad as the season Tooj pinpoints. mainly because a poor run-in made our final finish look close when in fact we were never going to be caught by those at the bottom. we were comfortably clear of the bottom three with a few games left - 9 points from 18th with 3 games left, 7 points clear with 2 games left - so relegation was a non-issue at that stage. in fact we were so comfortably dismal that season that roeder felt he could quit with a game remaining. the middle of the season when martins had adjusted to the league we looked pretty good and it wasnt until our amazingly pathetic surrender to alkmaar that we lost impetus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 97/98 season was when I really felt it was squeeky bum time btw. For a brief moment that is. I think 2006/7 was the worst. If we'd lost that game at Sheff Utd, I really think we'd have went down. Actually, if we'd lost at West Ham & Sheff Utd that season, which let's face it wouldn't have been totally unbelievable, the table would have ended... 13....West Ham..........44 pts 14....Man City.............42 pts 15....Sheff Utd............41 pts 16....Fulham................39 pts 17....Wigan..................38pts ------------------------------------ 18....NEWCASTLE.........37pts 19....Charlton...............34pts 20....Watford................28pts Now personally, I find that a lot scarier, to think 2 simple reversals would have seen us relegated, than now where there's still loads of football to be played. and people like to point to 06-06 as a season of good memories. Absolutely unbelievable, we comfortably deserved relegation that season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I believe had Fat Fred stayed on, we'd have consolidated as a club with Big Sam slowly but surely turning us around during the term of his contract. To which degree I don't know, certainly not top 4 material but top 8 perhaps. Seriously, you change your tune more than an I-Pod. I thought and posted pretty much the same thing when he was appointed you dullard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I believe had Fat Fred stayed on, we'd have consolidated as a club with Big Sam slowly but surely turning us around during the term of his contract. To which degree I don't know, certainly not top 4 material but top 8 perhaps. Seriously, you change your tune more than an I-Pod. I thought and posted pretty much the same thing when he was appointed you dullard. And then when Allardyce went, your opinion changed on him, and when Keegan went, you're opinion changed on Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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