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Newcastle United vs Tottenham Hotspur - 21/12/08 - Pre-match thread

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No, I didn't say that.

 

I think some people forget how good a player can be when he's been out for a while, don't judge him on a few appearances off the bench, it takes time to get match fit but Viduka will never lose his skill, movement, finishing ability, sublime first touch and control.

 

 

Ive seen snails with better movement than Viduka tbf

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No, I didn't say that.

 

I think some people forget how good a player can be when he's been out for a while, don't judge him on a few appearances off the bench, it takes time to get match fit but Viduka will never lose his skill, movement, finishing ability, sublime first touch and control.

 

 

Ive seen snails with better movement than Viduka tbf

 

Movement isn't about all about speed tbh. Viduka's excellent at receiving the ball from deep, laying it off, and getting into the box. The first time he touched the ball in the Boro game he was about 40 yards from goal. He's also excellent at getting infront of his defender at the near post. Admittedly, Owen is the master of good movement but Viduka is certainly second in that respect. Although Oba has improved, if he wasn't blessed with such pace then he probably wouldn't be a brilliant striker.

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No, I didn't say that.

 

I think some people forget how good a player can be when he's been out for a while, don't judge him on a few appearances off the bench, it takes time to get match fit but Viduka will never lose his skill, movement, finishing ability, sublime first touch and control.

 

 

Ive seen snails with better movement than Viduka tbf

 

Movement isn't about all about speed tbh. Viduka's excellent at receiving the ball from deep, laying it off, and getting into the box. The first time he touched the ball in the Boro game he was about 40 yards from goal. He's also excellent at getting infront of his defender at the near post. Admittedly, Owen is the master of good movement but Viduka is certainly second in that respect. Although Oba has improved, if he wasn't blessed with such pace then he probably wouldn't be a brilliant striker.

That's a bit obvious isn't it. I mean I don't think the likes of Viduka, Crouch, Kanu, Zigic, etc, would be all that good if they were 5 foot 6. Viduka doesn't have good movement in my opinion anyway. Players like him don't really need to, as the ball sticks to them when they get it, unlike our more mobile strikers.

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No, I didn't say that.

 

I think some people forget how good a player can be when he's been out for a while, don't judge him on a few appearances off the bench, it takes time to get match fit but Viduka will never lose his skill, movement, finishing ability, sublime first touch and control.

 

 

Ive seen snails with better movement than Viduka tbf

 

Movement isn't about all about speed tbh. Viduka's excellent at receiving the ball from deep, laying it off, and getting into the box. The first time he touched the ball in the Boro game he was about 40 yards from goal. He's also excellent at getting infront of his defender at the near post. Admittedly, Owen is the master of good movement but Viduka is certainly second in that respect. Although Oba has improved, if he wasn't blessed with such pace then he probably wouldn't be a brilliant striker.

 

No he isn't .......Martins and Owen move alot running into channels ect..... Viduka nowadays is very static with no to little movement..... when people try passing to him the defender nips in front of him taking the ball off him. For a big bloke he is also very weak in the air and easily overpowered by a half decent CB. Shearer would at least try. There is no way you can convince me Viduka has good movement.

 

Viduka is  a good finisher and also good if you give him space to work in or a defender who is weaker or makes lots of mistakes. Against a good CB viduka will have no to little impact on the game.

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No, I didn't say that.

 

I think some people forget how good a player can be when he's been out for a while, don't judge him on a few appearances off the bench, it takes time to get match fit but Viduka will never lose his skill, movement, finishing ability, sublime first touch and control.

 

 

Ive seen snails with better movement than Viduka tbf

 

Movement isn't about all about speed tbh. Viduka's excellent at receiving the ball from deep, laying it off, and getting into the box. The first time he touched the ball in the Boro game he was about 40 yards from goal. He's also excellent at getting infront of his defender at the near post. Admittedly, Owen is the master of good movement but Viduka is certainly second in that respect. Although Oba has improved, if he wasn't blessed with such pace then he probably wouldn't be a brilliant striker.

 

So you're saying his pace is a hindrance? :razz:

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No, I didn't say that.

 

I think some people forget how good a player can be when he's been out for a while, don't judge him on a few appearances off the bench, it takes time to get match fit but Viduka will never lose his skill, movement, finishing ability, sublime first touch and control.

 

 

Ive seen snails with better movement than Viduka tbf

 

Movement isn't about all about speed tbh. Viduka's excellent at receiving the ball from deep, laying it off, and getting into the box. The first time he touched the ball in the Boro game he was about 40 yards from goal. He's also excellent at getting infront of his defender at the near post. Admittedly, Owen is the master of good movement but Viduka is certainly second in that respect. Although Oba has improved, if he wasn't blessed with such pace then he probably wouldn't be a brilliant striker.

 

So you're saying his pace is a hindrance? :razz:

 

How do you mean? I shouldn't have bothered saying that, was a shit way of putting it in fairness. I basically just meant that he'd be third in the 'movement' stakes behind Owen and Viduka. :razz:

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hurrah....got my lieu day.

 

straight home after the game though.

 

Tart.

at work 4-30am monday morning.

 

 

anyway to prove i'm not a tart is shall be having my usual 27 pints before the match,a molten phall and shagging 3 barmaids.

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Harry Redknapp admitted Gilberto's Tottenham career is drawing to an end after hauling him off following his blunder against Spartak Moscow.

 

Gilberto was at fault for Artem Dzuba's opener in the 2-2 draw as Spurs came close to crashing out of the UEFA Cup, with goals from Luka Modric and Tom Huddlestone earning them the draw they needed to progress.

 

"He was quite happy to come off," Redknapp said. "There's not really a way back for him here.

 

"The boy doesn't want to play here. He's a nice guy but just doesn't feel confident playing here."

 

Dzuba added a second for the Russians and if the score stayed the same, Redknapp's men would have been eliminated as NEC Nijmegen beat Udinese 2-0.

 

The comeback meant Spurs finished second in Group D and earn a clash against a Champions League drop-out in the next round.

 

"We gave two bad goals away, we played that badly," Redknapp said. "It gave them a lift and they suddenly looked dangerous but we showed character to get back at them."

 

Redknapp had huge selection problems as Roman Pavlyuchenko and Vedran Corluka were cup-tied, with Ledley King, Jonathan Woodgate, Jermaine Jenas and Darren Bent among the players sidelined.

 

There are now concerns over Modric's tight hamstring and Aaron Lennon's groin ahead of the Barclays Premier League clash at Newcastle this weekend.

 

"My plan was to take Modric off at half-time and now he's ended up with a tight hamstring," Redknapp said. "Lennon has a tight groin and they could be struggling for the weekend."

 

Despite Europe not being his priority, Redknapp added: "I would have been bothered if we went out because I don't want to lose, I just put the best team out I could. The UEFA Cup is now on the backburner."

 

Spartak coach Michael Laudrup said: "A 2-2 draw is a good result, it was not enough but we did very well in the first half. It was difficult in the second half due to the high rhythm of Spurs.

 

"We didn't lose qualification from this game, it was when we lost against NEC.

 

"I told the players that everyone is saying it is impossible to win here and they said that last year - and we won.

 

"Our players looked tired in the last half an hour. We could only make three changes and they were not used to the rhythm of the game.

 

"We knew what type of game it would be, the only thing was Lennon not starting. Tactically we knew the game of Tottenham."

 

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