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Look at the figures '30k and 80k'. Like he would struggle to keep the lights on with 30k a week.

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Look at the figures '30k and 80k'. Like he would struggle to keep the lights on with 30k a week.

 

I think anyone would take a new job that offered an extra £2.6 million a year.

 

Not completely sure tbh.

 

Dream job that will make you stupidly rich or an extra £2.6m a year (again, this is on top of a salary which you will easily be comfortable on for the rest of your life) to do a job for a company you don't have anywhere near the passion for.

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As unpalatable a truth as it is for fans, almost all of whom genuinely believe they wouldn't make the same decision, it's the same thing 99.9% of footballers would have done. Even ignoring the fact his money was almost tripled it's very clear he's moving to a bigger and currently better (certainly more ambitious...) club, one which will give him far greater opportunities to win things throughout his career, will raise his profile and almost inevitably (even if this isn't the way it should be) lead to more opportunities with England. Not only that but the move made him the most expensive English player of all time.

 

This isn't to say I'm not fucked off with him btw.

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'True Faith' Carroll opinion piece: -

 

http://www.true-faith.co.uk/tf/features.nsf/0/43C4DDBC00E85930802578810042B587?OpenDocument

 

Nobody is entitled to tell anyone else what to think on matters Black & White, least of all a fanzine that claims no representative authority now or ever. However, in the opinion of this gobshite, it would be wrong of the away end at Anfield on Sunday to boo Andy Carroll were he to play for Liverpool against Newcastle United. Any booing or abuse will be music to the ears of Ashley-Llambias.

Professional footballers play for money. Alan Shearer joined us for amongst other reasons, paying him more or less more than anyone else and if anyone thinks any different they are living in their own dream world.

 

By all accounts, Andy Carroll was on £30K p.w.. A truly astonishing sum of money in anyone’s book but I defy anyone reading this old toffee to condemn Carroll for asking for his contract to be renegotiated when a club down the road is offering £80K p.w. there and then. Everyone reading this, myself included, would have gone and seen the boss and asked for their wages to be increased to the market rate. You would. I would.

 

On the 30/Jan/11, Andy Carroll was our best player with his best years ahead of him. He is a local lad, brought up at the club, settled and performing well. If Ashley is committed (ahem) to building a Newcastle United with bright, young talent, then Carroll was the future and the manifestation of that policy.

 

Goal-scorers demand the highest fees and wages (see Bent to Villa, Torres to Liverpool) and who here will argue Andy Carroll, in the rarefied world of PL salaries, wasn’t worth at least equal to what, say Bent is getting at Villa, from a club with higher attendances and who hadn’t shelled out a fee for him? Ashley and Llambias should have moved heaven and earth to keep Carroll but they did not, knowing that a vague promise of talks in the summer was an insult and one which is agent would be duty bound to reject. I’d guess they knew that too. Hence Carroll putting in a transfer request after encountering such obduracy. Funny Ashley should be at the training ground with his helicopter on hand on the last day of the transfer window.

 

There are those who say Carroll has just agreed a new deal and it would set a precedent at United were they to renegotiate it so quickly after settling it. No it wouldn’t. Carroll was a special case. And any business responds flexibly in special cases. Indeed it wasn’t long after Carroll headed for Merseyside that the club was crowing about renegotiating Chiek Tiote’s new 6 year deal (cough) after just agreeing terms back in the summer. I love Tiote as a player but had the club adopted the same response with Carroll, a more valuable and important player, I am utterly convinced he’s still be a Newcastle United player now.

 

The difference? There was £35m on the table, with £30m up front and few would argue was a massive sum of money and probably well in excess of his real value. For Ashley-Llambias was the realisation this was a take it or leave it offer and one unlikely to be repeated in the summer or by another club. They wanted that money and that dictated everything.

 

Pardew is doing himself no favours by continuing to spread black propaganda about the circumstances regarding Carroll’s departure. The sooner he keeps a wise silence on the matter so much the better for him and his battered reputation when it comes to players sales and purchases.

 

Carroll isn’t the first bright young player to be sold by Ashley (Milner, N’Zogbia and Bassong) and he won’t be the last. This is Ashley’s plan for United but if you want to boo a local lad at Anfield who is a product of that strategy, go ahead but not in my name.

 

That Is All.

 

"Carroll isn’t the first bright young player to be sold by Ashley (Milner, N’Zogbia and Bassong) and he won’t be the last."

 

Milner who most fans weren't bothered about and were happy to get £12m for him (fair enough, we wanted a replacement to be brought in which didn't happen).

N'Zogbia who always looked miserable and was constantly saying Arsenal were interested in him? He left for Wigan because JFK mispronounced his name.

Bassong who we bought from a relegated French side, we then got relegated and he went to Spurs. He recently said he wasn't getting enough game time at Spurs and may have to leave.

 

I used to like reading the 'True Faith' website but it's a bit like reading 'The Socialist Worker' now. Non-football, political opinion appears in their articles. Have a separate politics website if you want to talk about politics.

 

What were our fans singing at Carroll yesterday? I couldn't make it out on the TV.

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"What were our fans singing at Carroll yesterday? I couldn't make it out on the TV."

 

The usual "one greedy bastard".

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I was glad to see he got loads of abuse too, generally the away support/feelings represents a large chunk of our support in how they feel etc, so hope he realises how much the majority of us despise the cunt now.

 

In saying that though, in the pub after the game a couple of our lot were having a what seemed to be getting quite heated row about Carroll, one supporting the majority, scum bag, obviously wanted to leave etc, the other spouting the true faith shite.

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Guest Haris Vuckic

 

Both the club and Carroll wanted the money and Carroll deserves everything he gets the scummy little gimp. The chants were class like.

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I was glad to see he got loads of abuse too, generally the away support/feelings represents a large chunk of our support in how they feel etc, so hope he realises how much the majority of us despise the cunt now.

 

In saying that though, in the pub after the game a couple of our lot were having a what seemed to be getting quite heated row about Carroll, one supporting the majority, scum bag, obviously wanted to leave etc, the other spouting the true faith shite.

 

Music to the FCB's ears

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Heard most of them loud and clear on the telly. Was the highlight of the match unfortunately.

 

couldnt hear anything while watching it on ESPN.

 

The fuck were you watching it on like!? I watched on ESPN and it was so noticeable that I actually thought they had orchastrated their mics to capture the chants  :lol:

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Glad it was picked up on tv.

 

In addition there was also one that wasn't as loud but did get going a bit:

 

"You could have said no, you have have said no-o, you greedy bastard, you could have said no"

 

And one guy on his own, in response to 'when ranger scores we're on the pitch':

 

"If Carroll scores, we'll stab the cunt" :lol:

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Also when he was warming up we sent kuqi out to renditions of "kuqi, knock him out, kuqi kuqi knock him out"

 

Sadly the chants are the only highlight of that Liverpool game, just a non event on our behalf

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Heard most of them loud and clear on the telly. Was the highlight of the match unfortunately.

 

couldnt hear anything while watching it on ESPN.

 

The fuck were you watching it on like!? I watched on ESPN and it was so noticeable that I actually thought they had orchastrated their mics to capture the chants  :lol:

 

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Glad it was picked up on tv.

 

In addition there was also one that wasn't as loud but did get going a bit:

 

"You could have said no, you have have said no-o, you greedy bastard, you could have said no"

 

And one guy on his own, in response to 'when ranger scores we're on the pitch':

 

"If Carroll scores, we'll stab the cunt" :lol:

Also when he was warming up we sent kuqi out to renditions of "kuqi, knock him out, kuqi kuqi knock him out"

 

Sadly the chants are the only highlight of that Liverpool game, just a non event on our behalf

 

:lol:

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