mrmojorisin75 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Emotionally, it's great to see Chelsea get slapped round the face with a sucker punch in the last minute, absolutely loved it. On a more rational level though, Chelsea did get robbed of a few things, the Pique handball being the main one. However, as has been mentioned, Barca have hardly been getting all the decisions over the 2 legs - the Henry pen that wasnt, constant hacking/diving from Chelsea players, and the ludicrous sending off of Abidal. On one hand, a good defence seems to be vilified nowadays - it is a key part of the game and people defending well seems to be turning into another way of saying they're playing negatively. However on the other hand, Chelsea had it coming to them. Sitting back on a 1-0 lead, regardless of the chances they carved out the other end, was always a dangerous game. So what if Barca didn't have a shot on target? IMO they got all the encouragement they needed by being all over Chelsea, with one less man. In the end it was an excellent strike that got the goal that sent them through. Whether they deserved it is another matter, but on an emotional purist level, I'd agree they did. The general argument about the final though seems to be slightly flawed (i.e. the opinion that a better final will be played out - which is different to 'the best footballing side got through'). On the face of it, you'd think it would. But I fear the final will not be dissimilar to either of the 2 matches these 2 played out last year; and quite similar to today's game. Don't rule out Man Utd adopting a rugged and robust style against Barca to stop them playing. I hope Man Utd try to play openly though. Ultimately I think it'll be Man Utd's attitude and style of play, that will determine how the final is played. The tactics for a one-off final are totally different to those adopted for a 2 leg tie. I have no doubt in my mind that Man Utd will use their steam rolling attacking force as the best method of defence. What Ferguson will do is try to keep Barcelona busy defending, and expose their own defensive problems rather than worry about how they will attack. IMO Carrick, Scholes and Andreson will be key to whether they lift the trophy or not. agree carrick, scholes & anderson vs xavi, toure and iniesta losing both full backs might well hurt Barca mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Emotionally, it's great to see Chelsea get slapped round the face with a sucker punch in the last minute, absolutely loved it. On a more rational level though, Chelsea did get robbed of a few things, the Pique handball being the main one. However, as has been mentioned, Barca have hardly been getting all the decisions over the 2 legs - the Henry pen that wasnt, constant hacking/diving from Chelsea players, and the ludicrous sending off of Abidal. On one hand, a good defence seems to be vilified nowadays - it is a key part of the game and people defending well seems to be turning into another way of saying they're playing negatively. However on the other hand, Chelsea had it coming to them. Sitting back on a 1-0 lead, regardless of the chances they carved out the other end, was always a dangerous game. So what if Barca didn't have a shot on target? IMO they got all the encouragement they needed by being all over Chelsea, with one less man. In the end it was an excellent strike that got the goal that sent them through. Whether they deserved it is another matter, but on an emotional purist level, I'd agree they did. The general argument about the final though seems to be slightly flawed (i.e. the opinion that a better final will be played out - which is different to 'the best footballing side got through'). On the face of it, you'd think it would. But I fear the final will not be dissimilar to either of the 2 matches these 2 played out last year; and quite similar to today's game. Don't rule out Man Utd adopting a rugged and robust style against Barca to stop them playing. I hope Man Utd try to play openly though. Ultimately I think it'll be Man Utd's attitude and style of play, that will determine how the final is played. The tactics for a one-off final are totally different to those adopted for a 2 leg tie. I have no doubt in my mind that Man Utd will use their steam rolling attacking force as the best method of defence. What Ferguson will do is try to keep Barcelona busy defending, and expose their own defensive problems rather than worry about how they will attack. IMO Carrick, Scholes and Andreson will be key to whether they lift the trophy or not. agree carrick, scholes & anderson vs xavi, toure and iniesta losing both full backs might well hurt Barca mind Aye. Full back is the most important position tactically for a side as attacking as Barcelona. It will indeed hurt them. The players who will fill are certainly no mugs, but they possibly do not have the full season's momentum that Alves and Abidal have had. It will all depend on how quickly the scum's midfield can repossess the ball, especially Carrick, who if on form, has the fantastic ability to distribute play on par even with Xavi and Alonso. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Emotionally, it's great to see Chelsea get slapped round the face with a sucker punch in the last minute, absolutely loved it. On a more rational level though, Chelsea did get robbed of a few things, the Pique handball being the main one. However, as has been mentioned, Barca have hardly been getting all the decisions over the 2 legs - the Henry pen that wasnt, constant hacking/diving from Chelsea players, and the ludicrous sending off of Abidal. On one hand, a good defence seems to be vilified nowadays - it is a key part of the game and people defending well seems to be turning into another way of saying they're playing negatively. However on the other hand, Chelsea had it coming to them. Sitting back on a 1-0 lead, regardless of the chances they carved out the other end, was always a dangerous game. So what if Barca didn't have a shot on target? IMO they got all the encouragement they needed by being all over Chelsea, with one less man. In the end it was an excellent strike that got the goal that sent them through. Whether they deserved it is another matter, but on an emotional purist level, I'd agree they did. The general argument about the final though seems to be slightly flawed (i.e. the opinion that a better final will be played out - which is different to 'the best footballing side got through'). On the face of it, you'd think it would. But I fear the final will not be dissimilar to either of the 2 matches these 2 played out last year; and quite similar to today's game. Don't rule out Man Utd adopting a rugged and robust style against Barca to stop them playing. I hope Man Utd try to play openly though. Ultimately I think it'll be Man Utd's attitude and style of play, that will determine how the final is played. The tactics for a one-off final are totally different to those adopted for a 2 leg tie. I have no doubt in my mind that Man Utd will use their steam rolling attacking force as the best method of defence. What Ferguson will do is try to keep Barcelona busy defending, and expose their own defensive problems rather than worry about how they will attack. IMO Carrick, Scholes and Andreson will be key to whether they lift the trophy or not. agree carrick, scholes & anderson vs xavi, toure and iniesta losing both full backs might well hurt Barca mind Aye. Full back is the most important position tactically for a side as attacking as Barcelona. It will indeed hurt them. The players who will fill are certainly no mugs, but they possibly do not have the full season's momentum that Alves and Abidal have had. It will all depend on how quickly the scum's midfield can repossess the ball, especially Carrick, who if on form, has the fantastic ability to distribute play on par even with Xavi and Alonso. abidal was wank against real by the way, beaten time and again by ramos & robben so he might not be the greatest loss said elsewhere though that evra was a travesty up against lennon recently so messi will fancy his chances if he see's enough of the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GAMMELL Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 http://i39.tinypic.com/2natrq0.gif hahahaha :lol: :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Barca's midfield will destroy Man Utds. Biggest thing is, Messi Eto and Henry all track back and work hard to get the ball back, Nani Berbatove and Ronaldo don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Barca's midfield will destroy Man Utds. Biggest thing is, Messi Eto and Henry all track back and work hard to get the ball back, Nani Berbatove and Ronaldo don't. erm.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Barca's midfield will destroy Man Utds. Biggest thing is, Messi Eto and Henry all track back and work hard to get the ball back, Nani Berbatove and Ronaldo don't. eh? Berbatov was back in his own penalty area in open play (as in not defending a set-piece) at 3-0!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Barca's midfield will destroy Man Utds. Biggest thing is, Messi Eto and Henry all track back and work hard to get the ball back, Nani Berbatove and Ronaldo don't. 2 of them won't start, 1 is incorrect. Barca aren't this amazing fucking super team that everyone makes them out to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Barca > You. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniatmoko Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 it will be disappointing finale if barca playing like that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 In discussing the final this morning, colleague of mine imparts this diamond of wisdom on me: "team that scores more goals and concedes less will win. simple". Took me a while to get it, but I think he's spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Barca > You. I am just speechless at that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 http://i39.tinypic.com/2natrq0.gif http://i39.tinypic.com/tafr6u.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 http://i39.tinypic.com/2natrq0.gif http://i39.tinypic.com/tafr6u.gif :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leazes.ender Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Some classic pictures in the article.... http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/295191/CHELSEA-1-BARCELONA-1-Barcelona-win-on-away-goals-Didier-Drogba-and-Guus-Hiddink-fury-as-Blues-are-denied.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/8037118.stm "We get a referee who has officiated in 10 Champions League games in his career. For me, for him to be given a semi-final at Stamford Bridge, that's not good enough," Terry told BBC Radio 5 Live. In fact, the match official has been in charge of 28 Champions League games since 1999.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/8037118.stm "We get a referee who has officiated in 10 Champions League games in his career. For me, for him to be given a semi-final at Stamford Bridge, that's not good enough," Terry told BBC Radio 5 Live. In fact, the match official has been in charge of 28 Champions League games since 1999.. pwned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/8037118.stm "We get a referee who has officiated in 10 Champions League games in his career. For me, for him to be given a semi-final at Stamford Bridge, that's not good enough," Terry told BBC Radio 5 Live. In fact, the match official has been in charge of 28 Champions League games since 1999.. pwned and i thought this defeat for chel$ki couldn't get any better...beautiful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darth Toon Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I had recently started to not hate Chelsea quite as much. Last night brought it all flooding back though - horrible bunch of whining, classless, arrogant tossers - so glad they got knocked out and the element of injustice only serves to make it all the sweeter imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kaizero Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Personally I think it's gone a bit far with the death threats and listing of his address on a "Kill him" type of group on Facebook, and the journos following him to Norway. A game of football shouldn't mean a man has to fear for his own and his family's safety for gods sake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 'A bit'? He'll end up retiring like that other one. Pathetic really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sending off and the Pique handball were the only decisions I actually thought he got wrong myself. So it evened out in the end. Got the Malouda one spot on, Alves fouled him outside the box and then it spilled in to the box where any further contact was only minor and really not something you can give a penalty for. Other two were never penalties, laughable the amount of hysteria over the incident at the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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