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Haha, for those having a moan about Coloccini, watch Fulham's first goal from yesterday and see what we used to have in Andy O'Brien. :lol:

 

O'Brien was 10 million?

 

What's that got to do with it? You could say has Coloccini had 8 years in the Premiership?

 

Argentine international? Worth 10 million isn't performing because he hasn't had 8 years experience in the Premier League?  On this years evidence i would rather have Titus Bramble, not even kidding, Coloccini hasn't been any better has cost us more and im sure he is on a fair wage with good bonuses.

 

Add to the fact he has hardly any attributes to make him a success in this league, it's not about adapting he genuinely can't cope with the speed and the psychical side of the game. 

 

I don't believe the comparison with O'Brien is fair, 10 million compared to peanuts for O'Brien and the latter was in a Champions League team believe or not

 

He hasn't even had a season in the premiership and you're writing him off.

 

He wasn't all that in his first season for Depor either but soon became one of their best and most consistent players. You're acting as if he's as bad as Boumsong and he's no way near.

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Haha, for those having a moan about Coloccini, watch Fulham's first goal from yesterday and see what we used to have in Andy O'Brien. :lol:

 

O'Brien was 10 million?

 

What's that got to do with it? You could say has Coloccini had 8 years in the Premiership?

 

Argentine international? Worth 10 million isn't performing because he hasn't had 8 years experience in the Premier League?  On this years evidence i would rather have Titus Bramble, not even kidding, Coloccini hasn't been any better has cost us more and im sure he is on a fair wage with good bonuses.

 

Add to the fact he has hardly any attributes to make him a success in this league, it's not about adapting he genuinely can't cope with the speed and the psychical side of the game. 

 

I don't believe the comparison with O'Brien is fair, 10 million compared to peanuts for O'Brien and the latter was in a Champions League team believe or not

 

He hasn't even had a season in the premiership and you're writing him off.

 

He wasn't all that in his first season for Depor either but soon became one of their best and most consistent players. You're acting as if he's as bad as Boumsong and he's no way near.

 

It's the Newcastle way, apparently.

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Haha, for those having a moan about Coloccini, watch Fulham's first goal from yesterday and see what we used to have in Andy O'Brien. :lol:

 

O'Brien was 10 million?

 

What's that got to do with it? You could say has Coloccini had 8 years in the Premiership?

 

Argentine international? Worth 10 million isn't performing because he hasn't had 8 years experience in the Premier League?  On this years evidence i would rather have Titus Bramble, not even kidding, Coloccini hasn't been any better has cost us more and im sure he is on a fair wage with good bonuses.

 

Add to the fact he has hardly any attributes to make him a success in this league, it's not about adapting he genuinely can't cope with the speed and the psychical side of the game. 

 

I don't believe the comparison with O'Brien is fair, 10 million compared to peanuts for O'Brien and the latter was in a Champions League team believe or not

 

He hasn't even had a season in the premiership and you're writing him off.

 

He wasn't all that in his first season for Depor either but soon became one of their best and most consistent players. You're acting as if he's as bad as Boumsong and he's no way near.

 

The original post compared Coloccini to O'Brien which is daft, as O'Brien didnt cost a fraction of Colo's transfer fee and played in a successful side.  Coloccini genuinely don't look much better at the moment, and am i right in saying he has been our player with the most appearances?  I'm not writing him off, expected alot more for an established Argentine international.  He has been very disappointing.

 

Bassong has really shown him up, and he has barely any experience compared to his team mate. 

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Haha, for those having a moan about Coloccini, watch Fulham's first goal from yesterday and see what we used to have in Andy O'Brien. :lol:

 

O'Brien was 10 million?

 

What's that got to do with it? You could say has Coloccini had 8 years in the Premiership?

 

Argentine international? Worth 10 million isn't performing because he hasn't had 8 years experience in the Premier League?  On this years evidence i would rather have Titus Bramble, not even kidding, Coloccini hasn't been any better has cost us more and im sure he is on a fair wage with good bonuses.

 

Add to the fact he has hardly any attributes to make him a success in this league, it's not about adapting he genuinely can't cope with the speed and the psychical side of the game. 

 

I don't believe the comparison with O'Brien is fair, 10 million compared to peanuts for O'Brien and the latter was in a Champions League team believe or not

 

He hasn't even had a season in the premiership and you're writing him off.

 

He wasn't all that in his first season for Depor either but soon became one of their best and most consistent players. You're acting as if he's as bad as Boumsong and he's no way near.

 

The original post compared Coloccini to O'Brien which is daft, as O'Brien didnt cost a fraction of Colo's transfer fee and played in a successful side.  Coloccini genuinely don't look much better at the moment, and am i right in saying he has been our player with the most appearances?  I'm not writing him off, expected alot more for an established Argentine international.  He has been very disappointing.

 

Bassong has really shown him up, and he has barely any experience compared to his team mate. 

 

Yeah I couldn't be bothered to go back and quote the original.

 

Colo has shown at other clubs that he's a very reliable defender given the opportunity. He also looked solid in his first few appearances when Keegan was here and he was getting loads of praise as I remember.

 

The fact that he has the most appearances this season is nothing but a bonus for me. I'd rather have a slightly shaky defender that has shown his class in other leagues that stays injury free than a Woodgate who has shown his class in this league but is never available to play.

 

He'll settle in time I'm sure. He's shown that he has some adapting to do for this league but I've yet to see him make a major howler of a mistake like Taylor, Boumsong, Bramble etc. etc.

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Essien back to being the best midfielder in the Prem imo. He's everywhere.

Agree. What a player, he's everywhere and doing everything right. Now being used as an attacking midfielder and performing that role perfectly, just like he does DM and full back.

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If there is one thing I would say Jenas does well it is making runs into the box to join the attack.

 

Does it really well.

 

Not the best midfielder in the world, but if someone offered him back to Newcastle for £5-6m in the summer I'd have him back in a flash.

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Haha, for those having a moan about Coloccini, watch Fulham's first goal from yesterday and see what we used to have in Andy O'Brien. :lol:

 

O'Brien was 10 million?

 

What's that got to do with it? You could say has Coloccini had 8 years in the Premiership?

 

S'funny isn't it... we'd say that Coloccini, Bassong, probably Taylor aswell - are all better than Andy O'Brien, Andy Griffin or Aaron Hughes. Rightfully... yet it's the latter that has actually appeared in the last 16 of, what is essentially, the world elite competition.

 

People bitch and moan about our squad constantly, and whilst i agree it's hardly brilliant... what a good manager could do with it beggars belief. :nope:

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Haha, for those having a moan about Coloccini, watch Fulham's first goal from yesterday and see what we used to have in Andy O'Brien. :lol:

 

O'Brien was 10 million?

 

What's that got to do with it? You could say has Coloccini had 8 years in the Premiership?

 

S'funny isn't it... we'd say that Coloccini, Bassong, probably Taylor aswell - are all better than Andy O'Brien, Andy Griffin or Aaron Hughes. Rightfully... yet it's the latter that has actually appeared in the last 16 of, what is essentially, the world elite competition.

 

People bitch and moan about our squad constantly, and whilst i agree it's hardly brilliant... what a good manager could do with it beggars belief. :nope:

 

To be fair, how good would Coloccini & Bassong look if they had the likes of Robert, Solano, Speed, Dyer, even Jenas in front of them instead of Duff, Smith, Geremi & Butt?

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Where the heck would we have played Modric if we had bought him?

 

Seems to be a man with no position.

 

I think ideally he would slot in behind two front men, but hardly any prem teams play a diamond.

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Haha, for those having a moan about Coloccini, watch Fulham's first goal from yesterday and see what we used to have in Andy O'Brien. :lol:

 

O'Brien was 10 million?

 

What's that got to do with it? You could say has Coloccini had 8 years in the Premiership?

 

S'funny isn't it... we'd say that Coloccini, Bassong, probably Taylor aswell - are all better than Andy O'Brien, Andy Griffin or Aaron Hughes. Rightfully... yet it's the latter that has actually appeared in the last 16 of, what is essentially, the world elite competition.

 

People bitch and moan about our squad constantly, and whilst i agree it's hardly brilliant... what a good manager could do with it beggars belief. :nope:

 

To be fair, how good would Coloccini & Bassong look if they had the likes of Robert, Solano, Speed, Dyer, even Jenas in front of them instead of Duff, Smith, Geremi & Butt?

 

People always underestimate the midfield's role in a good defence unfortunately.

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Haha, for those having a moan about Coloccini, watch Fulham's first goal from yesterday and see what we used to have in Andy O'Brien. :lol:

 

O'Brien was 10 million?

 

What's that got to do with it? You could say has Coloccini had 8 years in the Premiership?

 

S'funny isn't it... we'd say that Coloccini, Bassong, probably Taylor aswell - are all better than Andy O'Brien, Andy Griffin or Aaron Hughes. Rightfully... yet it's the latter that has actually appeared in the last 16 of, what is essentially, the world elite competition.

 

People bitch and moan about our squad constantly, and whilst i agree it's hardly brilliant... what a good manager could do with it beggars belief. :nope:

 

To be fair, how good would Coloccini & Bassong look if they had the likes of Robert, Solano, Speed, Dyer, even Jenas in front of them instead of Duff, Smith, Geremi & Butt?

 

A fair point, absolutely. But i wouldn't say that Duff, Smith, Geremi or Butt are our four best midfielders in the squad. With a fully fit squad to choose from, the mong management team would still pick Duff and Butt (atleast) ahead of Guthrie/Barton/Nolan/(N'Zogbia). Which is kinda basically my point. IE, we are where we are mainly because of the management team.

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