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At the end of March last year, we'd just beaten Spurs 4-1, Allardyce's dismal brand of Fear Football had been kicked into touch and we were passing all but the best teams off the park. Now the players I am seeing coming into the club are being brought in to do a different job. Are Nolan, Ryan Taylor and Butt really a midfield capable of producing that free-flowing football? 

 

If Ashley sacked Allardyce last season because the football was so dismal, what is the reasoning behind backing Joe Kinnear's signings? 

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At the end of March last year, we'd just beaten Spurs 4-1, Allardyce's dismal brand of Fear Football had been kicked into touch and we were passing all but the best teams off the park. Now the players I am seeing coming into the club are being brought in to do a different job. Are Nolan, Ryan Taylor and Butt really a midfield capable of producing that free-flowing football? 

 

If Ashley sacked Allardyce last season because the football was so dismal, what is the reasoning behind backing Joe Kinnear's signings? 

 

No, not a chance. Nolan at a very push, but otherwise no.

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If you're in a relegation battle what type of players do you buy, flair players or grafters?

 

Joe is an old school manager and it was basically back him or sack him. We got a sort of middle ground, he was backed with money generated from player sales.

 

 

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At the end of March last year, we'd just beaten Spurs 4-1, Allardyce's dismal brand of Fear Football had been kicked into touch and we were passing all but the best teams off the park. Now the players I am seeing coming into the club are being brought in to do a different job. Are Nolan, Ryan Taylor and Butt really a midfield capable of producing that free-flowing football?

 

If Ashley sacked Allardyce last season because the football was so dismal, what is the reasoning behind backing Joe Kinnear's signings? 

 

They're cheap.

 

Don't worry though, because come the summer we'll get rid of them all and bring some proper players in. :thup:

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At the end of March last year, we'd just beaten Spurs 4-1, Allardyce's dismal brand of Fear Football had been kicked into touch and we were passing all but the best teams off the park. Now the players I am seeing coming into the club are being brought in to do a different job. Are Nolan, Ryan Taylor and Butt really a midfield capable of producing that free-flowing football? 

 

If Ashley sacked Allardyce last season because the football was so dismal, what is the reasoning behind backing Joe Kinnear's signings? 

 

Pointless even giving an opinion when you've already got your feelings about Nolan vocalised and cemented tbh.

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At the end of March last year, we'd just beaten Spurs 4-1, Allardyce's dismal brand of Fear Football had been kicked into touch and we were passing all but the best teams off the park. Now the players I am seeing coming into the club are being brought in to do a different job. Are Nolan, Ryan Taylor and Butt really a midfield capable of producing that free-flowing football? 

 

If Ashley sacked Allardyce last season because the football was so dismal, what is the reasoning behind backing Joe Kinnear's signings? 

 

Pointless even giving an opinion when you've already got your feelings about Nolan vocalised and cemented tbh.

 

I gave my opinion on Nolan a long time back on toontastic when he scored that wonder volley. The thread's not about any one player though. It's about creating a collective team and which players are part of that and which players aren't.

 

 

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At the end of March last year, we'd just beaten Spurs 4-1, Allardyce's dismal brand of Fear Football had been kicked into touch and we were passing all but the best teams off the park. Now the players I am seeing coming into the club are being brought in to do a different job. Are Nolan, Ryan Taylor and Butt really a midfield capable of producing that free-flowing football? 

 

If Ashley sacked Allardyce last season because the football was so dismal, what is the reasoning behind backing Joe Kinnear's signings? 

 

Nope.  But then neither would the team that Keegan had under him this time last year under this lot.  Just one was capable of instilling belief into the same eleven players he was stuck with playing for three months.

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What teams were you passing off the park? If it was a prolonged period of time then I certainly missed it.

 

Had a good run from the middle of March to the end of April last year, scoring 14 and conceding four with four clean sheets.  Not a great run of form if you're a half decent team, but better than what we've manged this season so far, and look unlikely to.

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This is what happens when you get someone in charge who is so pig-headed that they are prepared to let the person responsible for 'getting them playing again' leave so that they can retain their sacrosanct management structure...

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What teams were you passing off the park? If it was a prolonged period of time then I certainly missed it.

 

Had a good run from the middle of March to the end of April last year, scoring 14 and conceding four with four clean sheets.  Not a great run of form if you're a half decent team, but better than what we've manged this season so far, and look unlikely to.

 

That's fair enough but I think it's a bit inaccurate to link the team playing at that stage to be wonder players. They hit some good form, and that was that.

 

Not saying it wasn't good, but those were the same players who turned out a fair few w**k performances as well.

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The run of fixtures Keegan walked into, coupled with morale being lower than a snakes belly, was a large factor in the kickings we were getting last year at this time.

 

However, within six months we had turned the corner from having a kicking at Old Trafford to making a fist of it and taking a well earned point from there for the first time in a while.  Within a few months of him leaving we have gone back to square one, being bummed in the face by Liverpool on our own ground, and not having won at St James' in over two months

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At the end of March last year, we'd just beaten Spurs 4-1, Allardyce's dismal brand of Fear Football had been kicked into touch and we were passing all but the best teams off the park. Now the players I am seeing coming into the club are being brought in to do a different job. Are Nolan, Ryan Taylor and Butt really a midfield capable of producing that free-flowing football? 

 

If Ashley sacked Allardyce last season because the football was so dismal, what is the reasoning behind backing Joe Kinnear's signings? 

 

fucks the point of this thread?

 

we all know it all already, but KK has gone and that's that

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take martins, owen, viduka and barton out of the "free flowing month" and would it have been the same? would it fuck.

 

anybody remember the months prior to the "free flowing" one?

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take martins, owen, viduka and barton out of the "free flowing month" and would it have been the same? would it f***.

 

anybody remember the months prior to the "free flowing" one?

 

It took time to bring the change about FFS.  He had to get the players minds switched from nagative football to open football.

 

Birmingham was the turning point, where got a draw but could have won it.

 

Libertine always sniping at KK, any little chance.  Its ok tho, you just bend history to suit your argument.

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take martins, owen, viduka and barton out of the "free flowing month" and would it have been the same? would it f***.

 

anybody remember the months prior to the "free flowing" one?

 

It took time to bring the change about FFS.  He had to get the players minds switched from nagative football to open football.

 

Birmingham was the turning point, where got a draw but could have won it.

 

Libertine always sniping at KK, any little chance.  Its ok tho, you just bend history to suit your argument.

 

it took time to get 3 very good players back (and staying fit) to take the team forward in matches and score goals. the front 3 took the pressure off the shit midfield the same as a good midfield will take the pressure off a defence. simple as that.

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take martins, owen, viduka and barton out of the "free flowing month" and would it have been the same? would it f***.

 

anybody remember the months prior to the "free flowing" one?

 

It took time to bring the change about FFS.  He had to get the players minds switched from nagative football to open football.

 

Birmingham was the turning point, where got a draw but could have won it.

 

Libertine always sniping at KK, any little chance.  Its ok tho, you just bend history to suit your argument.

 

it took time to get 3 very good players back (and staying fit) to take the team forward in matches and score goals. the front 3 took the pressure off the shit midfield the same as a good midfield will take the pressure off a defence. simple as that.

 

Obviously the manager doesn't deserve any credit at all for changing the whole shape of the team though.

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