Peter Løvenkrands

[Ronaldo]

Lovenkrands hasn't scored regularly at this level in his entire career, why would he start now? He'll be an absolute passenger in the PL.

Rubbish. He hasnt had a fair enough run in the PL for you to make that comment. The last time he played for us in the PL, the club was in a total state of shambles. I doubt even bloody Rooney would have performed for us under those circumstances.

 

And you are one of these people screaming for the club to sign that well known PL greyhound, Kris Boyd?

 

Take a reality check, mate. Our options are limited and if we have to go with what we have, then Lovenkrands will score goals in the PL given good enough service.

 

How many times did Lovenkrands score against teams who finished in the top half last season? He's not PL class, not even close.

 

As for Boyd, there isn't one person on this board "screaming for the club" to sign him, that's all in your head. Most of us just see that on a free, his signing would represent a nowt to lose, everything to gain situation.

You are doing a damn good job of contradicting yourself, yet again (remembering the Cole/Beckford comments).

 

Whlst Lovenkrands has limited EPL experience, he has scored some goals when pklayed up front and against top 4 opposition, as well. Remember the 1-2 against Manchester United.

 

An entire point based on him having the ball dropped at his feet? I give up.

 

The point is that Lovenkrands has much more to his game than just scoring goalsd.

 

Really? He managed 2 assists last season. I think you just make stuff up for a laugh. Keep it up though, very entertaining.

[Ronaldo]

"one of those numpties that boo him when he scores?" Get a new hobby, Macca. 

 

Of course i'm not going to admit i'm wrong. The season hasn't even started, man.

 

Alex Mcleish has worked with both players, he's constantly been in for Boyd but decided against a contract for Lovenkrands last summer. If the overwhelming goalscoring evidence doesn't convince you, that perhaps should.

 

 

I dont think you even read my posts properly.

 

If McLeish has been in for Boyd so often, then why hasnt he signed him then? I believe he signed Zigic instead. Answer that one!

 

Because Zigic is better?

[macca888]

Lovenkrands hasn't scored regularly at this level in his entire career, why would he start now? He'll be an absolute passenger in the PL.

Rubbish. He hasnt had a fair enough run in the PL for you to make that comment. The last time he played for us in the PL, the club was in a total state of shambles. I doubt even bloody Rooney would have performed for us under those circumstances.

 

And you are one of these people screaming for the club to sign that well known PL greyhound, Kris Boyd?

 

Take a reality check, mate. Our options are limited and if we have to go with what we have, then Lovenkrands will score goals in the PL given good enough service.

 

How many times did Lovenkrands score against teams who finished in the top half last season? He's not PL class, not even close.

 

As for Boyd, there isn't one person on this board "screaming for the club" to sign him, that's all in your head. Most of us just see that on a free, his signing would represent a nowt to lose, everything to gain situation.

You are doing a damn good job of contradicting yourself, yet again (remembering the Cole/Beckford comments).

 

Whlst Lovenkrands has limited EPL experience, he has scored some goals when pklayed up front and against top 4 opposition, as well. Remember the 1-2 against Manchester United.

 

An entire point based on him having the ball dropped at his feet? I give up.

 

The point is that Lovenkrands has much more to his game than just scoring goalsd.

 

Really? He managed 2 assists last season. I think you just make stuff up for a laugh. Keep it up though, very entertaining.

He scored 16 goals as well. However, have you considered the point that his ability to take defenders away from the box may have contributed to many of the goals Nolan, Guthrie etc scored as well?

 

If you had a reasonable knowledge of the game, you would understand that strikers contribute a whole lot more than scoring goals or put them on a plate for others.

 

Furthermore, show me the proof over the 2 assists. Until then, I would say you might well be understating the fact.

 

As for Zigic being better than Boyd, you still havent answered my question. If McLeish had been after Boyd for so long, why didnt he sign him? Or, are you just believing everything that is written in the papers?

[Ronaldo]

 

As for Zigic being better than Boyd, you still havent answered my question. If McLeish had been after Boyd for so long, why didnt he sign him? Or, are you just believing everything that is written in the papers?

 

Erm, because Rangers rejected their offer?

[macca888]

 

As for Zigic being better than Boyd, you still havent answered my question. If McLeish had been after Boyd for so long, why didnt he sign him? Or, are you just believing everything that is written in the papers?

 

Erm, because Rangers rejected their offer?

So, you have evidence of an offer, have you? Like you have evidence of Lovenkrands assists last season?

 

ermmmmm

 

As far as I am aware, Boyd could have signed a pre contract agreement with Birmingham back in January but it appears he hasnt. Would I be right in assuming this?

 

If McLeish rated him so highly, why has he spent 8 million on Zigic when he could have got Boyd for nothing?

 

and dont say Zigic is the better player because as yet, he is unproven in the PL. Mind you, neither is Boyd.

 

I think you make up things just to try and get yourself out of a hole.

 

 

ERRRMMMMMMMMMMM

[Jayson]

Loven is prem standard. 

[JH]

Lovenkrands is being ridiculously underrated in this thread IMO. Of course he's no top PL striker, but he's good enough to do the job that we need him to do.

 

Wolve's top scorer in the league got 9 last season, Fulham's got 8 - it's a myth that you need a top scorer to keep you up. Hell, if we stay up because the ball bundles in off Smith's arse I'll be happy.

[Ronaldo]

 

As for Zigic being better than Boyd, you still havent answered my question. If McLeish had been after Boyd for so long, why didnt he sign him? Or, are you just believing everything that is written in the papers?

 

Erm, because Rangers rejected their offer?

So, you have evidence of an offer, have you? Like you have evidence of Lovenkrands assists last season?

 

ermmmmm

 

As far as I am aware, Boyd could have signed a pre contract agreement with Birmingham back in January but it appears he hasnt. Would I be right in assuming this?

 

If McLeish rated him so highly, why has he spent 8 million on Zigic when he could have got Boyd for nothing?

 

and dont say Zigic is the better player because as yet, he is unproven in the PL. Mind you, neither is Boyd.

 

I think you make up things just to try and get yourself out of a hole.

 

 

ERRRMMMMMMMMMMM

 

http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Rangers-ready-to-listen-to.4849114.jp

 

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=6795&cc=5739

[macca888]

http://sport.scotsman.com/sport/Rangers-ready-to-listen-to.4849114.jp

 

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=6795&cc=5739

Then you do believe everything that is written in the media then. Silly Boy

 

You can throw newspaper or tv articles at me till the cows come home but facts are facts. The facts are that the vast majority of articles are made up.

 

Why hasnt Boyd signed a pre contract agreement with McLeish at Birmingham?

 

Where is the evidence of only 2 Lovenkrands assists last season?

[Ronaldo]

"Ibrox chairman Sir David Murray told BBC Scotland: "Birmingham have made an enquiry. We talked about money but we haven't agreed a fee and no business will be done today.

 

"We rejected a bid of around £3million but if they improve it, we'll allow them to speak to Kris Boyd."

 

Looks like your reading is almost as good as your writing.

[macca888]

"Ibrox chairman Sir David Murray told BBC Scotland: "Birmingham have made an enquiry. We talked about money but we haven't agreed a fee and no business will be done today.

 

"We rejected a bid of around £3million but if they improve it, we'll allow them to speak to Kris Boyd."

 

Looks like your reading is almost as good as your writing.

Once again, it is media hype. If McLeish is so desperate for him, WHY HASNT HE SIGNED HIM FOR FREE ON A PRE CONTRACT AGREEMENT?

 

With that, I am off to watch Australia murder USA 1-0

[Thespence]

Where is the evidence of only 2 Lovenkrands assists last season?

 

http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/Assists/0,,10794~200910278~7,00.html

 

 

[Ronaldo]

"Ibrox chairman Sir David Murray told BBC Scotland: "Birmingham have made an enquiry. We talked about money but we haven't agreed a fee and no business will be done today.

 

"We rejected a bid of around £3million but if they improve it, we'll allow them to speak to Kris Boyd."

 

Looks like your reading is almost as good as your writing.

Once again, it is media hype. If McLeish is so desperate for him, WHY HASNT HE SIGNED HIM FOR FREE ON A PRE CONTRACT AGREEMENT?

 

With that, I am off to watch Australia murder USA 1-0

 

Media hype that he made a £3m offer? Of course it is. 

 

I never said Mcleish was desperate for him, stop making things up. I said that he offered money for Boyd and refused to sign Lovenkrands on a free.

[Elliottman]

Im with Ronaldo, as much as i like Loven, he isnt premiership standard sadly. He'll barley get a sniff next year, even against the poorer teams.

[Jayson]

If he doesnt get a sniff it'll be due to lack of service. His movement alone will see him get goals, hes a decent finisher.

[Yorkie]

I like Lovenkrands a lot, but some of the superlatives being thrown around just aren't true. His heading/movement/pace/whatever isn't exceptional or excellent. He's a reasonable striker, no more no less, really. And like many in our squad last season, his decent attributes (in an attacking sense) saw him score a lot of goals. It's true that his movement and (more prominently) his awareness is good, and he uses his pace better than many 'quick' strikers we've had in the past; and for that reason he scored plenty - particularly at home. But i can see him being nullified on a fairly regular basis last season.

 

One thing i'll definitely disagree with is that he's an excellent finisher. He isn't at all tbh, and that'll work against him next year. He's got a nack of being in the right place at the right time - like i've said, and it's why he scored a lot last season - but he's not an excellent finisher. The miss against Everton last season always springs to mind.

 

I'd definitely, definitely be happy with him as third or fourth choice next season though - given our situation.

[Guest BooBoo]

Agreed York.

[Ronaldo]

Pretty much bang on the money. Lovenkrands is a very good lad and a good Championship player and avoids constructive criticism based on those two factors. Factually, there's nothing to support the claim that he's a PL striker, nothing.

[Jayson]

Factually theres nothing to support the claim that Colo is a PL defender. Doesnt mean much, its all opinion.

[Dave]

Oh it's on.

[Ronaldo]

Factually theres nothing to support the claim that Colo is a PL defender. Doesnt mean much, its all opinion.

 

I'll rephrase, there's nothing to support the claim that Lovenkrands is a top level striker in any league.

 

[Pilko]

As I proved on the previous page, Lovenkrands record when he played upfront for us in a shit team was between 1 in 2 and 1 in 3. Although I think he'd struggle to sustain it quite as much, I think he'd get 8-10 goals in the premier league.

[Ronaldo]

In a team running riot last season he managed a total of 5 goals against teams in the top half of the league. Admittedly he was fantastic against Plymouth and Barnsley, but what good will that do us next season?

 

 

[Jayson]

I reckon that Loven hasnt been played upfront consistantly in a decent team while injury free for a number of years. Seems like the last time he was, he was scoring a decent amount in the champions league for Rangers.

 

Time has moved on, but think he could suprise most of us still.

 

 

[Pilko]

What would you think of him (mainly) in the role of impact sub next season? I think there's plenty for him to exploit in the final 20 minutes of a game, particularly against some of the dross at the bottom.