Punk77 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Punk77, ever the optimist. Yeah, optimist 4ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Where do these people appear from ffs? Painful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Another 7 goals to find. Thank Christ Man Utd fans didn't think this way when they sold Ronaldo & Tevez. That doesn't make sense on any level. I think people need to make their mind up. If Lovenkrands is an important striker then why the clamour for more strikers? On the one hand we are moaning about having the likes of Best, Ameobi and Lovenkrands as our strikers because they are so shit then the same people are up in arms if we try to sell them. Who on earth would be up in arms about selling Lovenkrands? Just making the point that no matter how useless he may seem, he scored seven goals last season. That's a fact. So what? I would still rather upgrade him despite his goals. Best and Shola also scored goals last season, how many poor forwards can you keep on the basis they got x amount of goals? To upgrade him you need a replacement. If we sell him without a replacement you'd have a point. I'm pretty sure there'll be a striker coming in though, and even if there wasn't I think I'd rather have Vukic on the pitch than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 I still find the "there's 7 goals we need replacing" comment bizarre mind. It is really, I mean its 7 goals in 29 games, a pretty awful record. Shola could score 7 in 29, probably more. His goals to games ratio would say otherwise. Ameobi got 9 in 30 last season didn't he? Which is a better goals to games ratio. Regardless either of these two planks playing any predominant role in our season is f***ing comical. It's not about them playing a PREDOMINANT role, it's about them filling in when we're up against inferior teams that we should be able to beat, even when resting one or two of our most valuable players. Against the inferior teams, they know they are going to be fighting for survival come the end of the season, and will be up for it, the last thing you want to do is play with Lovenkrands, you are effectively a man down. Even in the Championship, every away game, this was the case. This is the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Where do these people appear from ffs? Painful. Scandinavia, just like Cuntenkrands himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Cunterkrands. FFS man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Shola and Lovenkrands make me nauseous, not sure Cunterkrands and Shita are the right way of describing them though. I like Punk's posts in general, uses detail and thinks things through but the Lovenkrands argument is just a no goer for me. Lovenkrands should have done us all a favour and burnt a couple of bins over the past few days, stole a few packets of crisps from Poundland and disappeared never to be seen again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Cunterkrands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Cunterkrands Time for a new thread title perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Our whole strikeforce, bar Demba is Championship strikers. You could say Best is a decent striker, at least he's better than Lovenkrands and Ameobi, and has some continuity. Ask yourselves this question; In which other Premier League club would Ameobi and Lovenkrands get a game? You should struggle to find more than 5. I find it worrying that this club, which is associated with such quality strikers from the past, now seem to settle for very average strikers, if that. I started supporting this club because of Alan Shearer, and seeing so many people defending the likes of Ameobi/Lovenkrands is just wrong. This club needs competitive genuine quality strike force, and shouldn't keep handing out contract extensions and hold on to nobodies. It sends out all the wrong signs. Villa, Blackburn, Bolton, Fulham, Norwich, QPR, Stoke, Sunderland, Swansea, West Brom, Wigan, and Wolves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Wow. Exactly. And Cuntenkrands wtf - Lovencunts is surely better, although it kind of conjures up images of him as a real caveman lothario type so perhaps it's best avoided. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Tbf as it stands Lovenkrands/Ameobi probably would be 4th choice strikers at pretty much all of those clubs, which I THINK is the point he was getting at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Dont agree with resting your best strikers against any team. There probably will be injuries & i think the likes of Ameobi/Loven are better than most other teams 3rd/4th choice strikers. If we get in another striker though, itd make sense to let one of them go and we just gave Ameobi a new deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 While I do appreciate what he's contributed at times, I would be pretty chuffed if we did manage to flog Lovenkrands. After Xisco's departure, he stands with four others on my "release/sell" list from the end of last season. Campbell, Harper, Kuqi, Perch, Routledge, Smith and R. Taylor are/were the others. Quite happy with the progress on this front so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 4th choice hardly means they would get games, though. Neither would be anywhere near a first team spot at Villa, Blackburn, Stoke, Sunderland or West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 While I do appreciate what he's contributed at times Think people forget this. He's shit, undeniably terrible at this level and essentially leaves us with 10 men when he plays. However, he has contributed towards this club a lot more than many who have came in for bigger fees and earned more money. Would have easily been our top scorer in the promotion season if he'd had a proper pre-season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Ameobi and Lovenkrands would without a doubt "get games" at all of those clubs over the course of the season. If fourth choice doesn't qualify as "getting games," then Lovenkrands isn't "getting games" for us either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Dont agree with resting your best strikers against any team. There probably will be injuries & i think the likes of Ameobi/Loven are better than most other teams 3rd/4th choice strikers. If we get in another striker though, itd make sense to let one of them go and we just gave Ameobi a new deal. Can people please stop referring to this idea like it's one that's sweeping the forum. As far as I know it's the view of 1 Scandanavian fruitloop and that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 While I do appreciate what he's contributed at times Think people forget this. He's shit, undeniably terrible at this level and essentially leaves us with 10 men when he plays. However, he has contributed towards this club a lot more than many who have came in for bigger fees and earned more money. Would have easily been our top scorer in the promotion season if he'd had a proper pre-season. People generally do forget it, which is a real shame. Not just with Lovenkrands, either, but there are a lot of players who take a lot of shit and their better moments are just completely wiped from memory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Dont agree with resting your best strikers against any team. There probably will be injuries & i think the likes of Ameobi/Loven are better than most other teams 3rd/4th choice strikers. If we get in another striker though, itd make sense to let one of them go and we just gave Ameobi a new deal. Can people please stop referring to this idea like it's one that's sweeping the forum. As far as I know it's the view of 1 Scandanavian fruitloop and that's it. What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Except Smith. He has done essentially fuck all and deserves all the stick he gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Except Smith. He has done essentially fuck all and deserves all the stick he gets. Hard to argue. He wasn't even that good in his "good" spell in the Championship and he is soiling himself further with every day he sucks money out of this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Dont agree with resting your best strikers against any team. There probably will be injuries & i think the likes of Ameobi/Loven are better than most other teams 3rd/4th choice strikers. If we get in another striker though, itd make sense to let one of them go and we just gave Ameobi a new deal. Can people please stop referring to this idea like it's one that's sweeping the forum. As far as I know it's the view of 1 Scandanavian fruitloop and that's it. You're taking it the way you choose to, the line you highlighted doesnt suggest its a mass view anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 While I do appreciate what he's contributed at times Think people forget this. He's s***, undeniably terrible at this level and essentially leaves us with 10 men when he plays. However, he has contributed towards this club a lot more than many who have came in for bigger fees and earned more money. Would have easily been our top scorer in the promotion season if he'd had a proper pre-season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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