J7 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 If this Moat fella is struggling to even raise enough to buy the shares then why would you want him in charge? He'll have nothing to invest surely I would rather someone running the club well, even if they arent investing loads, as opposed to someone running the club terrible who isnt investing anything anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 It seems to me he wants out for definite, he's just playing the gambler he is and so is Moat. He didn't, for whatever reason, want to sell to Sheard and his crew and he and Moat have entered into this endgame, let's hope it's the final stages. If he wanted to keep the club he would have announced it by now. The puzzle is why he has told Hughton the job is his, another chess move I suspect. If Moat pulls this off and raises more money it shows his determination, I can't see him throwing in the towel now (Moat that is). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Shepherd had no money, and he spent shitloads. that wasn't a good thing as he spent money that the club didn't have either Aye, but before he took it to the extremes in the last few years, in the early Bobby days money was not really an issue most seasons yes he the spending then was more or less in line with earning through champions league however the problem is when we didnt finish in the cl places the spending didn;t correspondently go down to reflect this instead we spent like a cl team but we were 12th-14th. And didn't freddie have some 300m spend on expanding the stadium and other things planned before ashley rolled into town Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 It seems to me he wants out for definite, he's just playing the gambler he is and so is Moat. He didn't, for whatever reason, want to sell to Sheard and his crew and he and Moat have entered into this endgame, let's hope it's the final stages. If he wanted to keep the club he would have announced it by now. The puzzle is why he has told Hughton the job is his, another chess move I suspect. If Moat pulls this off and raises more money it shows his determination, I can't see him throwing in the towel now (Moat that is). understanding ashleys motives on any decision is an exercise in futility, all i can speculate on the hughton appointment is one of a) he doesn't think this deal is going to happen so is planning for the rest of the season b) attempt to force moats hand a bit by saying hughton is going to be appointed as manager c) the deal will go through and this is to make things that little bit more difficult for moat if/when he's in out of spite d)it was a completely random decision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Interpolic Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 It seems to me he wants out for definite, he's just playing the gambler he is and so is Moat. He didn't, for whatever reason, want to sell to Sheard and his crew and he and Moat have entered into this endgame, let's hope it's the final stages. If he wanted to keep the club he would have announced it by now. The puzzle is why he has told Hughton the job is his, another chess move I suspect. If Moat pulls this off and raises more money it shows his determination, I can't see him throwing in the towel now (Moat that is). understanding ashleys motives on any decision is an exercise in futility, all i can speculate on the hughton appointment is one of a) he doesn't think this deal is going to happen so is planning for the rest of the season b) attempt to force moats hand a bit by saying hughton is going to be appointed as manager c) the deal will go through and this is to make things that little bit more difficult for moat if/when he's in out of spite d)it was a completely random decision With Ashley, random always seems the best bet. The timing of his decisions are always as insane as the decision itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 B o l Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Redheugh Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 B o l http://www.spjservices.co.uk/images/comp_locks.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 642 pages in and Sillius finally makes a positive contribution to the thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 642 pages in and Sillius finally makes a positive contribution to the thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 So is this a case of offer "100mill be ignored.. then say he will take £80mill so Moat offers the £80mill Ashley rejects it? I mean fkn hell can we not just murder the pair of them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VegasToon Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 So is this a case of offer "100mill be ignored.. then say he will take £80mill so Moat offers the £80mill Ashley rejects it? I mean fkn hell can we not just murder the pair of them? Sounds good to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nige_S5 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 At the risk of repeating myself.............. Balls to it You've had a good run man, and fooled a lot of people in the process. Isn't it about time you came clean and admitted it was all balls? Go on - you can do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToonBart Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Sillius offer either never met the value or more likely never had the cash to back it up. If not, they would be all over the press crying foul. I think it's quite apparent why they sidestepped Seymour pierce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 We all knew it deep down, its just sad to see our football club being sold in a manner befitting a box of soild Umbro trackie bottoms on ebay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Ashley has asked for £80 million up front. Moat has only come up with £60 million. The £20 million later just means he doesn't have the money. Christ knows, he's had enough time to raise it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 Our best chance of selling the club will be when this season ends, expecting much else is a complete waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianovthetoon Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 All this talk of Moat having no money to invest in the club is likely to be bollocks. I would imagine his business plan would allow for investment. Shearer's initial plan to get us promoted under his stewardship included investment in new players, so I would doubt he'd come and work for Moat if the conditions were the same as under Mike Ashley. Plus, you wouldn't look to invest that kind of money to stay still. You wouldn't buy a dilapidated house for the market price of a new one, then spend nothing on putting it right. Our situation is no different really. Even if the Moat was looking to sell on in a couple of years at a profit, decent investment is required to get us to the point where we have a sale value sufficient to warrant a healthy profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 according to ssn ashley has turned down 80 million? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hellhammer Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 £60m now, and £20m next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 according to ssn ashley has turned down 80 million? I think they are just reporting the Times article, posted last night (£80m is reportedly £60m upfront with £20m to follow next season). They also said neither side (Ashley or Moat) are commenting on the report yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 according to ssn ashley has turned down 80 million? I think they are just reporting the Times article, posted last night (£80m is reportedly £60m upfront with £20m to follow next season). They also said neither side (Ashley or Moat) are commenting on the report yet. Well if he'd accept 60m up front and really wanted to sell he'd accept 60m then 20m next season, he doesn't want to sell. He either wants to wait until next season or as I expect is remaining quiet and will hope we get promoted and then basically take the club off the market unless some crazy Billionaire comes in. Why are we being linked with these youth players from abroad who have actually been quoted discussing our interest, he'll continue to sign youth players invest sod all in the first team and somehow expect in 3/4 seasons time these youngsters will be good enough to get us to where he wants us to be. We'll see if this is true if Hughton gets a long term deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 He wants 100m still, nothings changed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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