Mole_Toonfan Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Beardsley too. Though it's fair to say from that list only SAS really looked the business in England colours. Wouldn't that be because the others didn't get much of a go? rightly or wrong i'm pretty sure if the likes of Wright had more opportunities he would have performed better. On that same token if they were around now we would look a lot better IMO. I think you may be onto something there. was a silly comment to make but felt i had to for my post to make sense F*ck it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Silly Mole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 won't be the first time someone has said that to me and won't be the last time you say it to me either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 can't remember the last time i saw an england line up, when we are putting out the best we can muster, that had so many players who were squad players for their clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Collymore just tweeted this: Ridiculous the amount of striking talent England had in the mid-90s. That would have been a list just 12 months after England failed to qualify for a World Cup, and before the mass influx of foreign players came into this league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 No, Stevie, it didn't go in because you just blasted it as hard as you could like usual and hoped it went either side of the keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Danny Mills talking a lot of sense on SSN right now about Engerland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Danny Mills talking a lot of sense First time those words have ever been uttered. What was he saying? We're average and need to accept, players lack drive, no world class players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Danny Mills talking a lot of sense First time those words have ever been uttered. What was he saying? We're average and need to accept, players lack drive, no world class players? Pretty much. He even dared criticise Rooney and say that people need to realise that he isn't the player he once was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 It was just panic by individuals last night. The amount of times we just hoofed it out of play or up the pitch without thinking was criminal. When we're under a bit of pressure we just don't think to relieve it by keeping possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 It was just panic by individuals last night. The amount of times we just hoofed it out of play or up the pitch without thinking was criminal. When we're under a bit of pressure we just don't think to relieve it by keeping possession. Missed Wilshere which given his age and lack of games for England is slightly embarrassing already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Why can't Roy Keane f*** off and commentate on Ireland's games? Whatever we do, the c*** always seems to slag us off regardless. Quite like Keane's punditry personally. Seems to steer clear of the arse licking most pundits tend to give England/the top Prem sides when they're playing on shI-TV. He's hilarious. Glad he's not my boss or something. Can see why he's a crap manager. Bad for morale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 England are like Spurs. Natural chokers. Throw in a genuine lack of class and here we are, struggling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 can't remember the last time i saw an england line up, when we are putting out the best we can muster, that had so many players who were squad players for their clubs. Agreed. Half the side. IMO this is the biggest problem. Made worse that they get the nod over players playing regularly for smaller clubs. Milner, Cleverley are proper rotation players which is okay. Welbeck gets the nod for big games so even that's not the worst. But Smalling and Lescott are at best 4th choice. They shouldn't play. Look at the side that beat Germany 5-1. Mostly young but also regulars at that age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 See you in the playoffs!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Are you guys in anger or something? Or you just dont care? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Are you guys in anger or something? Or you just dont care? The latter. I'd prefer Newcastle to win a throw in than England to win the World Cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Are you guys in anger or something? Or you just dont care? The latter. I'd prefer Newcastle to win a throw in than England to win the World Cup Yes. The last conversation we had about this is coming back to my mind! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 http://c2.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/i/N5b146511/14785329_e0p8B.jpeg Discovering Brazil again in 2014 "Stay calm, lads! Seems that some winds coming from Azerbaijan just started to blow and this old piece of crap is moving again!" ;D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 It was just panic by individuals last night. The amount of times we just hoofed it out of play or up the pitch without thinking was criminal. When we're under a bit of pressure we just don't think to relieve it by keeping possession. Yeah, I agree. When Montenegro changed their formation in the second half, that should have given us an extra man in the midfield, but if you bang the ball over the heads then the advantage is lost. It reminded me of how we (ie NUFC) sometimes play (though not as often as before). The British disease is a lack of confidence in passing and retaining the ball under pressure. Although we do produce players with just as much skill as the continentals, our technical ability is often confined to half the team. If we're to achieve real fluency, all the players need to show some level of technical competence. It's not just a matter of confidence in your own ability, but in your team-mates as well. I lost count of the number of passes that went slightly behind a team-mate, because the passer wasn't confident about playing the ball into their stride. You see it so often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 It was just panic by individuals last night. The amount of times we just hoofed it out of play or up the pitch without thinking was criminal. When we're under a bit of pressure we just don't think to relieve it by keeping possession. Yeah, I agree. When Montenegro changed their formation in the second half, that should have given us an extra man in the midfield, but if you bang the ball over the heads then the advantage is lost. It reminded me of how we (ie NUFC) sometimes play (though not as often as before). The British disease is a lack of confidence in passing and retaining the ball under pressure. Although we do produce players with just as much skill as the continentals, our technical ability is often confined to half the team. If we're to achieve real fluency, all the players need to show some level of technical competence. It's not just a matter of confidence in your own ability, but in your team-mates as well. I lost count of the number of passes that went slightly behind a team-mate, because the passer wasn't confident about playing the ball into their stride. You see it so often. Lots of pressure? I think that in these qualifiers the players main objective is not to get hurt. Playing football like that is the first step to lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 A lot of the abject mediocrity is down to Capello not bombing out all of the same old faces after 2010 , and Hodgson for carrying on with the same policy. If the likes of Lampard, Gerrard , Cole , Ferdinand and even Terry weren't good enough to bring success to England in their prime, why would they be now all are past their best ? Capello should've started from scratch after that WC and now we may have been seeing some positive performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I care. just not that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 A lot of the abject mediocrity is down to Capello not bombing out all of the same old faces after 2010 , and Hodgson for carrying on with the same policy. If the likes of Lampard, Gerrard , Cole , Ferdinand and even Terry weren't good enough to bring success to England in their prime, why would they be now all are past their best ? Capello should've started from scratch after that WC and now we may have been seeing some positive performances. So barring those players, what's the strongest squad for England? Hart Lescott Cahill Johnson Baines Wilshere Carrick Walcott Young Rooney Welbeck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I'd have put youngsters in. Id have picked Rooney purely as a centre forward, and I would probably have made him captain. Don't want him dropping deep . Id have the likes of Caulker, Sterling, Ox, Clyne and Shaw all starting now. Let's build for 2018. We will do fuck all in 2014 even if we qualify. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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