Colos Short and Curlies Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 England revert to boring type. Want Belarus to score for comedy value now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 And completely s*** in all of them. But hey, 7 years past his prime lets stick him in there, for a laugh. I remember before Euro '96 the media were trying to push Les Ferdinand forward to replace Shearer who hadn't scored in yonks for England. He went on to take the tournament by storm. Quite a difference between how good Shearer was then though and Owen now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 The amount of top-class forwards we had available back then was unreal, even if not all them performed to their full ability for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 And completely shit in all of them. But hey, 7 years past his prime lets stick him in there, for a laugh. Nope. I remember before Euro '96 the media were trying to push Les Ferdinand forward to replace Shearer who hadn't scored in yonks for England. He went on to take the tournament by storm. Quite a difference between how good Shearer was then though and Owen now. Indeed, while on his England drought he was still scoring 30+ for Blackburn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 The amount of top-class forwards we had available back then was unreal, even if not all them performed to their full ability for England. Yep. Shearer, Sheringham, Fowler, Wright, Ferdinand, Collymore, etc. Every single one of them would walk into the current side to partner Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 And completely s*** in all of them. But hey, 7 years past his prime lets stick him in there, for a laugh. Nope. I remember before Euro '96 the media were trying to push Les Ferdinand forward to replace Shearer who hadn't scored in yonks for England. He went on to take the tournament by storm. Quite a difference between how good Shearer was then though and Owen now. Indeed, while on his England drought he was still scoring 30+ for Blackburn Not disputing that. But as a 4th choice striker, I'd take Owen over the likes of Crouch, Heskey, C.Cole every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Swp is shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Don't know about Heskey... in the England system he just seems to work. But it's a tricky one. Would certainly consider Owen as back up for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 http://mentalfloss.cachefly.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/baby-yawn.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 And completely s*** in all of them. But hey, 7 years past his prime lets stick him in there, for a laugh. Nope. I remember before Euro '96 the media were trying to push Les Ferdinand forward to replace Shearer who hadn't scored in yonks for England. He went on to take the tournament by storm. Quite a difference between how good Shearer was then though and Owen now. Indeed, while on his England drought he was still scoring 30+ for Blackburn Not disputing that. But as a 4th choice striker, I'd take Owen over the likes of Crouch, Heskey, C.Cole every time. they're all clearly better players and easily better partners for Rooney in the even of an injury Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hardly crap in all of them. 2002 he was top scorer. Euro 2000 shearer got the most with 2, 1 more than owen. 2004 scored against portugal what would have been a winner if theyd not scored 7 mins from time. Talk about pointlessly biased. If owens been crap, the entire England squad has been far worse. So pointless to focus much at him. He scored 1 in 4 during Euro 2000 and 2 in 5 during WC 2002 my point stands, he was f***ing s**** in those tournaments. And lets not even talk about the other 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Anyone got a pic of Owen sitting next to Bullard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 The amount of top-class forwards we had available back then was unreal, even if not all them performed to their full ability for England. Yep. Shearer, Sheringham, Fowler, Wright, Ferdinand, Collymore, etc. Every single one of them would walk into the current side to partner Rooney. I know some may differ but i think it is down to the greater amounts of foreigners in the english game. you can buy a ready-made foreign player now whereas back then you sometimes had to look to develop your own and buy from the lower leagues. Sheringham, Wright, Ferdinand, Collymore and Cole all started or had to go down to the lower levels of the game and then had to work their way up and develop over time. I feel there is less pressure to develop players now. that is not the fault of foreigners, but the way english clubs see them as an easy option. also, back in the 80s when those players were coming through youth schemes you had to rely on british players to make up pretty much the entirety of a side so clubs simply had to produce all different kinds of players - the silky defender, cultured playmaker, intelligent number 10 etc. you couldnt go abroad and get them as easily as you now can. whereas now there's almost this division of labour going on, where we naturally look to foreigners to provide certain elements of our side and, similarly, look to english players for more traditional or straight-forward elements like pace, height, aggression, leadership etc. mind you I also think a high amount of foreigners in the league is inevitable and the answer isnt going back and restricting numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 He scored 1 in 4 during Euro 2000 and 2 in 5 during WC 2002 my point stands, he was f***ing s**** in those tournaments. And lets not even talk about the other 2. As i said though, in comparison to who which you didnt answer. A striker will only perform so well if the rest of the team isnt doing much. If others were doing far better ud have a case, they werent & so you dont. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Ah, this is proper shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 What the fucking hell is that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Rooney and Lampard comfortably outscored him in 2004 mate. But ah yes the old 'he didn't score so he the rest of the team must be shite' argument again..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 nice goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Shit keeping that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Good strike, awful keeping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 'A great strike giving the goalkeeper no chance' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 'A great strike giving the goalkeeper no chance' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Beckham and his army of superfans please fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 He (Owen) was really crap at Euro 2004, there certainly can be no denying that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 'A great strike giving the goalkeeper no chance' Andy needs to bang out the tactics truck for some more expert analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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