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Trevor Sinclair's overhead kick will never be beaten. Not by a human anyway.

 

The usual site, top ten bicycle kick goals. You will see 8 bicycle kick goals there which for me are more difficult to do than Zlatans. It was a spectacular goal, but one of the best ever? No.

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It was canny amazing like. It would have been difficult to keep a full volley under control from there with the pace needed to beat the defenders, but to get that pace and accuracy with an overhead kick is something else.

 

Every effort from range has an element of luck though, otherwise people would be battering them in from 40 yards without fail.

on that usual site there is another overhead kick from similar distance by mauro bressan but with a keeper to beat. both very good goals but not the best ever as some in the media want to make out.

Just watched it :notbad:

 

Is anyone seriously trying to make out that it was the best ever though?

 

It was a fantastic goal and one of the best we've seen this year though, for sure.

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Ben Arfa's goals against Blackburn and Bolton were both better IMO or rather they were better scored goals if you like, as crazy as that may sound. Ibra's was a better goal than Cisse and Crouch's, however, which were both somewhat speculative strikes. Ibra's goal was an amazing piece of individualism, to even attempt such a strike never mind execute it so perfectly as he did, requires a great deal of technique and creativity, all within a second's thought and such a long way from goal. A joy to watch. Such a talented footballer.

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I get people applauding the technique/ability but I don't buy into the whole improvisation/creativity/audacious thing. The keepers just headed you the ball, first instinct is to try and hit the unguarded net. I'm sure anyone in that position would have saw the same opportunity but reasoned that there's no way they can get their leg that high.

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People think he was lucky, maybe a bit, but im not surprised at all when it comes to Zlatan and these type of goals he just has that technical skill and timing combined with physical power and agility.

 

Great goal, but not as lucky as many think, more skill for sure.

 

It's definitely not luck, it's just not THAT AMAZING.

 

Didn't think that the goal was that amazing, there will be better goals scored this season. Just when you add that goal to the fact that he had already scored a hat-trick makes it special especially as all the goals were pretty nice.

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Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that.

 

Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd.

 

Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time.

 

Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing.

 

Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years.

I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps?

 

No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member.

 

He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster.

 

Your eyes are covered by red lensed spectacles then. Osman is a far superior player to Cleverly and should have been in the squad way before now.

 

Or I just know my team extremely well. Cleverley is a stand out performer for us, and we're top of the Premier League. Also, I'm not sure if you're actually watching England or not, but Cleverley has been the best player on the pitch for England in most of the games he's played. He also just turned 23.

 

For what it's worth too, I rate Osman pretty highly. I was delighted he received a call up.

 

Has Cleverley really been best player on the pitch in most of the  England games he's played ?

Typical fucking glory hunting Man United "supporter" bollocks.

 

 

Absolutely fucking ridiculous that you can still manage to squeeze in glory hunting because I rate Tom Cleverley. That just shows you're incredibly simple minded and as pathetic as actual glory hunters.

 

I watched the games and seen how good he was. Other than that Google is your friend if you don't remember his two man of the matches in a row.

 

England's best player against Sweden was Osman though, and Wilshere is the better talent.

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Trevor Sinclair's overhead kick will never be beaten. Not by a human anyway.

 

That goal was truly exceptional.  Watched it again to check how good it really was and it was even better than I remembered.  Don't think I have seen a better struck overhead kick.

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Sinclairs wasn't sitting pretty at all. It's technically the best one I've ever seen. Ibrahimovic's was incredible technique and with the distance taken into account as well and the fact he had to loop it.

 

Rivaldos against Valencia deserves a mention as well.

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Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that.

 

Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd.

 

Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time.

 

Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing.

 

Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years.

I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps?

 

No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member.

 

He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster.

 

Your eyes are covered by red lensed spectacles then. Osman is a far superior player to Cleverly and should have been in the squad way before now.

 

Or I just know my team extremely well. Cleverley is a stand out performer for us, and we're top of the Premier League. Also, I'm not sure if you're actually watching England or not, but Cleverley has been the best player on the pitch for England in most of the games he's played. He also just turned 23.

 

For what it's worth too, I rate Osman pretty highly. I was delighted he received a call up.

 

Has Cleverley really been best player on the pitch in most of the  England games he's played ?

Typical fucking glory hunting Man United "supporter" bollocks.

 

 

Absolutely fucking ridiculous that you can still manage to squeeze in glory hunting because I rate Tom Cleverley. That just shows you're incredibly simple minded and as pathetic as actual glory hunters.

 

I watched the games and seen how good he was. Other than that Google is your friend if you don't remember his two man of the matches in a row.

 

England's best player against Sweden was Osman though, and Wilshere is the better talent.

 

So you don't actually think that you are an actual glory hunter then?????????????

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Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that.

 

Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd.

 

Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time.

 

Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing.

 

Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years.

I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps?

 

No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member.

 

He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster.

 

Your eyes are covered by red lensed spectacles then. Osman is a far superior player to Cleverly and should have been in the squad way before now.

 

Or I just know my team extremely well. Cleverley is a stand out performer for us, and we're top of the Premier League. Also, I'm not sure if you're actually watching England or not, but Cleverley has been the best player on the pitch for England in most of the games he's played. He also just turned 23.

 

For what it's worth too, I rate Osman pretty highly. I was delighted he received a call up.

 

Has Cleverley really been best player on the pitch in most of the  England games he's played ?

Typical fucking glory hunting Man United "supporter" bollocks.

 

 

Absolutely fucking ridiculous that you can still manage to squeeze in glory hunting because I rate Tom Cleverley. That just shows you're incredibly simple minded and as pathetic as actual glory hunters.

 

I watched the games and seen how good he was. Other than that Google is your friend if you don't remember his two man of the matches in a row.

 

England's best player against Sweden was Osman though, and Wilshere is the better talent.

 

So you don't actually think that you are an actual glory hunter then?????????????

 

First off, congratulations on being the first person in two years to accuse me of being a glory hunters on this forum, even though I've explained how I wound up supporting Manchester United, and even though people from here know me in real life and know how much I love the club and football in general.

 

No, I'm not a glory hunter.

 

That's not what annoys me though, it's the fact that because I rate a young player, and because he plays for Man Utd, it's glory hunters nonsense.

 

I'm on this forum because the majority don't spout that sort of rubbish when someone has an opinion. Dissect it, sure, tell me why he doesn't deserve to play for England, that's fine, but leave that other shit out.

 

To you, I basically don't have a say because you'll either; a) agree or b) call me a glory hunter.

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