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Cole was the best player on the pitch during the first half of saturday's game. He's a fantastic footballer who shouldn't be overlooked.

 

Agree entirely. If it's a choice between him and Downing and both are fit and playing for their clubs then there's not even a choice to be made.

 

People are quick to forget.

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23 man squad. My pick would be:

 

Rob Green

Joe Hart

 

Ashley Cole/Stephen Warnock if Cole's not fit

Leighton Baines

 

Wes Brown

Mich Richards

 

John Terry

Rio

Upson

Lescott

 

Carrick

Gerrard

Lampard

Barry

Joe Cole

 

Stewart Downing

James Milner

 

Wright Philips

Aaron Lennon

 

Carlton Cole

Peter Crouch

Wayne Rooney

Jermain Defoe

 

Either Downing or J.Cole has to go for an extra goalkeeper.

 

The rest I agree with you.

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James

Green

Hart

 

Johnson

Richards

 

A.cole

Baines

 

Terry

Ferdinand

Lescott

Upson (just)

 

Gerrard

Lampard

Carrick

Barry

 

Lennon

SWP

 

J.cole

Beckham (close.....Downing and Milner still in with a shout)

 

Rooney

Crouch

Defoe

Heskey

 

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I still think the best X1 is...

 

----------------------------------James-----------------------------------

 

Johnson--------------Terry------------------Ferdinand-----------Cole

 

----------------------------------Carrick--------------------------------

 

------------------------Lampard-------Gerrard------------------------

 

----------Lennon------------------------------------------J.cole-------

 

------------------------------------Rooney------------------------------

 

 

 

 

 

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I still think the best X1 is...

 

----------------------------------James-----------------------------------

 

Johnson--------------Terry------------------Ferdinand-----------Cole

 

----------------------------------Carrick--------------------------------

 

------------------------Lampard-------Gerrard------------------------

 

----------Lennon------------------------------------------J.cole-------

 

------------------------------------Rooney------------------------------

 

 

 

 

 

 

Take out James and I agree with that to some extent.

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In an ideal world Hargreaves would be ahead of Carrick there, he just won't be fit though. I'd still start the team we had throughout qualification fwiw.

 

Carrick is straight beast playing the dm role. Hargreaves imo isn't clever enough playing that role as well as Carrick can. I do however think Hargreaves would suit the cm role ahead of Lampard if we played that formation.

 

I don't think Capello would ever try this formation though so i agree that we should start the team that started during qualifications.

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Is he fuck.  See his performance in the Carling Cup final?  Fucking woeful.

 

Gareth Barry is easily better.

 

:no:

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Is he fuck.  See his performance in the Carling Cup final?  Fucking woeful.

 

Gareth Barry is easily better.

 

See his performances all season? Fucking woeful.

 

Carrick >>>>> Barry

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carrick's looked excellent when i've seen him recently. for instance vs man city or milan. the one thing that i'd say barry has over him is that he plays more simple passes and keeps the ball moving. carrick is more likely to slow down, put his foot on the ball and look for the ambitious pass. both types of player have their uses but in international football barry might be a bit more useful when we're up against sides that play possession football.

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Carrick was the best player on the pitch on sunday for me, don't see where Messi is coming from. Probably his agenda against english players not named Beckham.

 

:lol:

 

Valencia was the best player on the pitch by a mile man. 

 

Carrick was having great difficulty beating the first man from every set piece and finding a simple pass.  Him and Fletcher were awful in the middle.

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