Mick Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Agree. The regime needs to sort out the issues because as you say moving players out won't solve the problem - the remaining players will probably end up even more dissatisfied. This was where Nolan came into his own - holding it all together - not sure who will be doing that now. We shouldn't need a player to sort this out, that should be the managers job but he's possibly part of the problem if Nolan is telling the truth. It's no good Pardew telling players one thing to keep them happy and then having something different happen. Having your hopes built up only to then have them knocked back down only makes matters worse, it's easier to not make promises that you can't keep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 There was always going to be a problem when Joey, a powerful figure in the dressing room, was refused a contract. He's been marginalised, and if he can't exercise influence in a positive manner, he's going to find some other way. He only started tweeting after he was refused a contract. What he's effectively saying is 'there's a major problem at the club but I'm not allowed to talk about it'. Sorry, Joey, but that's a bullshit statement. If you choose to talk, you have to say exactly what the problems are and give people the chance to respond or make their own minds up. Being vague like that only leads to speculation and worry - which was perhaps his objective. It was always a concern of mine that he wouldn't be able to handle the position that he's found himself in with the club. It looks like he can't and will have to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Barton is disgustingly selfish. Thinks everything is all about him and him alone. Shut up mate. Do your job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 @Joey7Barton Joseph Barton @TheFurlz do u want the truth? Or something beautiful? If I didn't I say f**k all and pick my money up #helmet The thing is though (while TheFurlz was being a dick), it's not as if he is even giving us 'the truth', just vague hints at problems which just frustrates the fuck out of everyone. I hold Joey in high regard, but just can't see this opening volley ending up helping anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Barton really fancies himself as some sort of revolutionary hero of the people. Complete moron. Talk about an inflated opinion of ones self. Then again the way the way some of you have been fawning over him on twitter it's no surprise. The whole twitter thing is just a disaster. Giving these undeserved idiots a forum to utter any thought that comes into their thick heads is just tragic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I have never understood how a football club could ban players from using twitter, from a purely legal standpoint surely it's ludicrous? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Barton really fancies himself as some sort of revolutionary hero of the people. Complete moron. Talk about an inflated opinion of ones self. Then again the way the way some of you have been fawning over him on twitter it's no surprise. The whole twitter thing is just a disaster. Giving these undeserved idiots a forum to utter any thought that comes into their thick heads is just tragic. Spot on. If there's anyone that shouldn't be on twitter, it's Joey Barton. The guy combines the IQ of a sprout with the feeling that he's Che Guevara or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I have never understood how a football club could ban players from using twitter, from a purely legal standpoint surely it's ludicrous? It's like when they ban them from nights out before a match I guess. Nothing legal but I guess if it gets bad then common sense should show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Barton really fancies himself as some sort of revolutionary hero of the people. Complete moron. Talk about an inflated opinion of ones self. Then again the way the way some of you have been fawning over him on twitter it's no surprise. The whole twitter thing is just a disaster. Giving these undeserved idiots a forum to utter any thought that comes into their thick heads is just tragic. Spot on. If there's anyone that shouldn't be on twitter, it's Joey Barton. The guy combines the IQ of a sprout with the feeling that he's Che Guevara or something. I reckon he is very intelligent but either has no common sense or his heart completely overpowers his brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I have never understood how a football club could ban players from using twitter, from a purely legal standpoint surely it's ludicrous? Footballers have it written into their contracts their obligations to the club and what they can / can't do with media etc, would be easy to get it banned tbh and more clubs are starting to do it without much fuss. Also slagging off your employers is a sackable offence with many stories recently about such incidents recently in the news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I have never understood how a football club could ban players from using twitter, from a purely legal standpoint surely it's ludicrous? I don't think the club could ban them easily, they might have to add something to contracts. They can still discipline them and go far beyond the 2 week fine, I would think they could sack a player if it got too bad. That's unlikely because of the value of the players but it is possible for them to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Barton really fancies himself as some sort of revolutionary hero of the people. Complete moron. Talk about an inflated opinion of ones self. Then again the way the way some of you have been fawning over him on twitter it's no surprise. The whole twitter thing is just a disaster. Giving these undeserved idiots a forum to utter any thought that comes into their thick heads is just tragic. Spot on. If there's anyone that shouldn't be on twitter, it's Joey Barton. The guy combines the IQ of a sprout with the feeling that he's Che Guevara or something. I reckon he is very intelligent but either has no common sense or his heart completely overpowers his brain. He's a very selfish person when you look at his incidents in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Barton really fancies himself as some sort of revolutionary hero of the people. Complete moron. Talk about an inflated opinion of ones self. Then again the way the way some of you have been fawning over him on twitter it's no surprise. The whole twitter thing is just a disaster. Giving these undeserved idiots a forum to utter any thought that comes into their thick heads is just tragic. Not really in a position to use that against people whilst calling others morons/idiots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I'll put my neck out here and say Arsenal will howk us by at least three clear goals. I might place a 100 bet on us to beat them tbh. There are 3 reasons why we won't lose against them. Eh? You must have money to burn mate as we are gonna get tonked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 And just incase anyone nationally missed it all, Edwards has gone to press with it now. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/8673650/Joey-Barton-hits-out-at-Newcastle-Uniteds-board-in-Twitter-tirade.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Luke Edwards is a fucking mackem sympathising piece of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Barton's comments are causing unnecessary aggravation. No idea what his motivation is for some of them - is he trying to divide the players? Is he undermining the people who pay him circa £50k a week? Is he deliberately drawing outside attention to this unrest? Is he trying to force his way out of the club? Is he just sticking up for his mates? His stupid comments certainly aren't helping the club and only ensure that the media microscope will be focused on the players even more. We all know what Ashley and Llambias are all about and they've (mis)managed the club for the last few seasons. We know about the lack of investment and ambition off the field but Barton's creating even more pressure for the players on the field now too. He needs to shut the fuck up - his comments are helping no-one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Agreed Midds. The content of Joey's messages are spot on, the manner of their delivery is the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Barton really fancies himself as some sort of revolutionary hero of the people. Complete moron. Talk about an inflated opinion of ones self. Then again the way the way some of you have been fawning over him on twitter it's no surprise. The whole twitter thing is just a disaster. Giving these undeserved idiots a forum to utter any thought that comes into their thick heads is just tragic. Spot on. If there's anyone that shouldn't be on twitter, it's Joey Barton. The guy combines the IQ of a sprout with the feeling that he's Che Guevara or something. Somebody please photoshop this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Agreed Midds. The content of Joey's messages are spot on, the manner of their delivery is the problem. I wonder if he's aired his thoughts to Ashley or Llambias? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Agreed Midds. The content of Joey's messages are spot on, the manner of their delivery is the problem. I wonder if he's aired his thoughts to Ashley or Llambias? Holy shit, I think I'd rather he stuck to Twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It does seem the players on the biggest wages are kicking up the biggest stink publicly about contract terms, both in terms of length and size of salary. The different versions of squad solidarity might be down to the big earners resenting the new guys coming in and undermining their positions reading between the lines. We have to get rid of the malcontents asap if this is the case. Barton's claims to give 100% this season are clearly bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It does seem the players on the biggest wages are kicking up the biggest stink publicly about contract terms, both in terms of length and size of salary. The different versions of squad solidarity might be down to the big earners resenting the new guys coming in and undermining their positions reading between the lines. We have to get rid of the malcontents asap if this is the case. Barton's claims to give 100% this season are clearly bullshit. If anything it'd be the other way around surely? Can't see the likes of Tiote, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, etc. being on anywhere near Barton's wages. The problem we've got and we're going to have, is to try and convince the likes of Enrique and Barton to stay here on that sort of salary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It does seem the players on the biggest wages are kicking up the biggest stink publicly about contract terms, both in terms of length and size of salary. The different versions of squad solidarity might be down to the big earners resenting the new guys coming in and undermining their positions reading between the lines. We have to get rid of the malcontents asap if this is the case. Barton's claims to give 100% this season are clearly bullshit. If anything it'd be the other way around surely? Can't see the likes of Tiote, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, etc. being on anywhere near Barton's wages. That's what I'm saying. If those guys are coming in for less it undermines the big earners claims to new bumper contracts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It does seem the players on the biggest wages are kicking up the biggest stink publicly about contract terms, both in terms of length and size of salary. The different versions of squad solidarity might be down to the big earners resenting the new guys coming in and undermining their positions reading between the lines. We have to get rid of the malcontents asap if this is the case. Barton's claims to give 100% this season are clearly bullshit. If anything it'd be the other way around surely? Can't see the likes of Tiote, Ben Arfa, Cabaye, etc. being on anywhere near Barton's wages. The problem we've got and we're going to have, is to try and convince the likes of Enrique and Barton to stay here on that sort of salary. The other day you were saying Cabaye will be on £50k or more. Which is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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