Raconteur Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 The board aren't going to be too fussed on losing Barton in the summer, especially for a decent (£5m+) fee. He needs to be careful how hard he plays if he really does care and want to stay, it could all backfire spectacularly on him. That's valid - he's playing a high risk game, but there's two factors in his favour: his reputation and his wages. The former means the top teams won't touch him, and the latter rules out most of the middle-lower clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 He needs to be very careful, saying as how the club stuck by him and took a lot of flack from everyone due to his own antics. Barton owes NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 He needs to be very careful, saying as how the club stuck by him and took a lot of flack from everyone due to his own antics. Barton owes NUFC. But what's the worst case for him? He criticises Ashley until his contract expires (saying the things many of us think, mind) and then gets a free transfer where he might get something close to his current wages. He can't lose - the fans will back him for speaking the truth publically, the players know whT he's saying is correct and the manager can't drop one of his top three players. Is Ashley going to pay out Barton's contract because Mike's feelings are hurt? Not a chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 He needs to be very careful, saying as how the club stuck by him and took a lot of flack from everyone due to his own antics. Barton owes NUFC. barton should sign a reduced contract if he is to do the right thing. But what's the worst case for him? He criticises Ashley until his contract expires (saying the things many of us think, mind) and then gets a free transfer where he might get something close to his current wages. He can't lose - the fans will back him for speaking the truth publically, the players know whT he's saying is correct and the manager can't drop one of his top three players. Is Ashley going to pay out Barton's contract because Mike's feelings are hurt? Not a chance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 And he has supposedly said he will, the sticking point is apparently the length of the contract. You can't blame the man for aiming to win a three year contract over a two year one. It's brinkmanship between Ashley and Barton (ie separate from the fans) and in this case Barton is holding good cards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 You have one valid point NG. He should be allowed to speak the truth, telling that MA should invest Carroll's money into new players. Nobody disagrees about that. What I react on is his hesitation of signing a new contract, because he owes NUFC a new contract after all the s*** he's done. Why couldn't he just sign that bloody deal to show his intent. I wouldn't have reacted that he after signing had gone out and said that now he's fulfilled his part, now it's MA turn to do his. It's almost as he thinks that if he signs, that eliminates his chance to tell his opinion. That wrongful thinking. He could disagree with some of the policy, but still be loyal to the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punk77 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 And he has supposedly said he will, the sticking point is apparently the length of the contract. You can't blame the man for aiming to win a three year contract over a two year one. Normally I agree, but it's Barton we're talking about. We saved his f***ing career. He owes us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Just seen a clip of Barton getting treatment and doing abit of running. He wont be out for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Watching the game from the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 fuuuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Thigh injury according to Real Radio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Out forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Hope he'll be back for Everton. We really really need him. Loaning out Routledge was never going to be a great idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 He seemed fine on the bench. Faking it, wants away etc... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Can we bring Routledge back btw? It was daft letting him go in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Was told today the delay in the contract is all over the time. Joey wants 3 years, club offering 2. FFS if that's right they should give him the 3 years. Its a no-brainer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Was told today the delay in the contract is all over the time. Joey wants 3 years, club offering 2. FFS if that's right they should give him the 3 years. Its a no-brainer. we should give him 5 imo. it's not like turning 30 will make his passes shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I wouldn't be against giving him 3 years, it doesn't really matter. But TBF he has only been good for us for a small percentage of the time we've been paying his wages, so you could equally argue that he should be grateful for whatever he's offered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 He was a massive miss today, not quite as missed as Tiote is when not playing but close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Was told today the delay in the contract is all over the time. Joey wants 3 years, club offering 2. FFS if that's right they should give him the 3 years. Its a no-brainer. we should give him 5 imo. it's not like turning 30 will make his passes shit. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Hope he signs. Losing Enrique will be far less hurtful if don't lose Barton too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 As I understand it, the reduced wage, 2 year contract would come into effect after his current contract ends in Summer 2012 so effectively he would have 3 years from the end of this season. He's 28 now (29 in September) so the new contract will end when he's 31 (3 months off 32). I wouldn't offer him a longer contract than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 As I understand it, the reduced wage, 2 year contract would come into effect after his current contract ends in Summer 2012 so effectively he would have 3 years from the end of this season. He's 28 now (29 in September) so the new contract will end when he's 31 (3 months off 32). I wouldn't offer him a longer contract than that. Been brilliant this season, one of our best players but he was a write off before that and there's nothing to say that won't happen again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I agree with Cajun cause I didn't have a good word to say about him till this season. Don't agree with the hitting 31 nonsense. It's the usual stuff peddled and often by managers as well that players turn s*** at 30. Tell Alex Ferguson that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I agree with Cajun cause I didn't have a good word to say about him till this season. Don't agree with the hitting 31 nonsense. It's the usual stuff peddled and often by managers as well that players turn s*** at 30. Tell Alex Ferguson that. My point was that I wouldn't give him a 3, 4 or 5 year contract now. If he's still playing well at 31 (and 9 months) offer him a new contract then. If he goes off the boil we don't want to be stuck with him on a big contract for multiple years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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