Cronky Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Did anyone see this 'shoulder charge'? I couldn't see any physical contact from Pedersen, and assumed that he said something. You can't expect the ref or the FA to make a judgement about how hard the punch was, or where it connected. He threw a punch, there was some connection, that's it. I fear this ban will cost us. He's been a very important player for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slarth Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Good to see he's had his PR team working overtime to conjure up some sort of defence for his actions. I think it's him just being honest tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Good to see he's had his PR team working overtime to conjure up some sort of defence for his actions. I think it's him just being honest tbh i'd rather he lied and controlled himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Did anyone see this 'shoulder charge'? I couldn't see any physical contact from Pedersen, and assumed that he said something. You can't expect the ref or the FA to make a judgement about how hard the punch was, or where it connected. He threw a punch, there was some connection, that's it. I fear this ban will cost us. He's been a very important player for us. It was just a brush really, when Barton was rushing on to the scene and MGP was walking away from it. If that really was the cause Barton needs to stop skipping his anger management classes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 What a fucking joke. Ban him for this but let loads of other incidents go. Typical anti-Barton reaction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 What a f***ing joke. Ban him for this but let loads of other incidents go. Typical anti-Barton reaction. who else got punched like ? (though if you mean the huddlestone stamp then I agree) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 What a f***ing joke. Ban him for this but let loads of other incidents go. Typical anti-Barton reaction. who else got punched like ? Don't be stupid, man. A little nick to the ribcage is nothing compared to an actual career-threatening injury from an unneccessarily dangerous challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garth Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Did anyone see this 'shoulder charge'? I couldn't see any physical contact from Pedersen, and assumed that he said something. You can't expect the ref or the FA to make a judgement about how hard the punch was, or where it connected. He threw a punch, there was some connection, that's it. I fear this ban will cost us. He's been a very important player for us. Yes they showed the incident on the news, and you can clearly see Pedersen going into Barton with his shoulder a clear provocation. Still it doesn't excuse him for the way he reacted. Good to see him accept his punishment, now it's time to get over it and move on, looking forward to seeing him play soon as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 What a f***ing joke. Ban him for this but let loads of other incidents go. Typical anti-Barton reaction. who else got punched like ? Don't be stupid, man. A little nick to the ribcage is nothing compared to an actual career-threatening injury from an unneccessarily dangerous challenge. are you referring to ben arfa ? then the rules were followed in that the ref said he saw it and acted accordingly...rightly or wrongly thems the rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 What a f***ing joke. Ban him for this but let loads of other incidents go. Typical anti-Barton reaction. who else got punched like ? Don't be stupid, man. A little nick to the ribcage is nothing compared to an actual career-threatening injury from an unneccessarily dangerous challenge. are you referring to ben arfa ? then the rules were followed in that the ref said he saw it and acted accordingly...rightly or wrongly thems the rules. then the rules don't make sense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Good to see he's had his PR team working overtime to conjure up some sort of defence for his actions. Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Good to see he's had his PR team working overtime to conjure up some sort of defence for his actions. Pathetic. in what way ? we've heard it all before from joey, he gives great interview then does this sort of thing, he even has cheerleaders who want him applauded for not assaulting someone in 18months. whenever i think of the joey fan club i think of chris rocks "niggers" set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 the media reaction to this has been over the top but also to be expected. This is Joey Barton afterall, they've been waiting for him to slip up for a while. I wonder if he would have got an England call-up tomorrow if he hadn't done this? We'll never know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 As far as I'm concerned, Barton has been an absolute idiot. More so because he's actually looked calm and collected this year so far. It was an act of total madness and will rightly see questions about his temperament being raised again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1328914/Joey-Barton-It-moment-stupidity-I-anger-issues-turn-rage-Im-role-model-.html ‘My reaction was wrong and I have to take responsibility. But I’m not a changed man because it’s who I am. It’s something inside me, a natural instinct, that makes me stand and fight. I just continue to work at it. I’ll always be fighting to curb it and it’s a battle for me. I have these anger issues but I know that when it turns to rage, like it did against Blackburn, it is not acceptable.’ http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2213/joeyv.jpg sorry joey, it means your as thick as fuck if you cant take it and time it to get your own back, there are plenty of opportunities on a football pitch to get someone back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I thought it was a decent article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I thought it was a decent article. it was, but it's a bit like a wife beater saying he'll never do it again or he knowss that it's wrong and he'll try to stop it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Well, yeah. I think more than anything Barton has put a big hole in the trust many people put in him with regards to becoming a less angry, more contained professional footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Good to see he's had his PR team working overtime to conjure up some sort of defence for his actions. Pathetic. in what way ? we've heard it all before from joey, he gives great interview then does this sort of thing, he even has cheerleaders who want him applauded for not assaulting someone in 18months. whenever i think of the joey fan club i think of chris rocks "niggers" set. You guys must live in some kind of fantasy cukoo land. I personally give Joey Barton credit because I feel he has come a long way. He is no longer getting into trouble off the field, which was very much standard previously, and even on the pitch he has taken a lot and has handled himself quite well (Wolves game for example) for the most part. Why people suddenly expect him to turn into some kind of saint I will never know, ridiculously unrealistic. Even players who do not have the kind of problems he has had, sometimes show poor judgement and lash out. It happens almost every week for goodness sake. Fellaini just yesterday and Huddlestone's stamp a week ago also, just off the top of my head. Obviously what he did wasn't right but at least he's acknowledged his mistake and has admitted he has to continue to try to learn to control himself better. Some people on here seriously need to get off their high horses. God knows what some of you lot get up to in your everyday lives. I'm sure your all perfect yourselves. Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1328914/Joey-Barton-It-moment-stupidity-I-anger-issues-turn-rage-Im-role-model-.html ‘My reaction was wrong and I have to take responsibility. But I’m not a changed man because it’s who I am. It’s something inside me, a natural instinct, that makes me stand and fight. I just continue to work at it. I’ll always be fighting to curb it and it’s a battle for me. I have these anger issues but I know that when it turns to rage, like it did against Blackburn, it is not acceptable.’ http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2213/joeyv.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Good to see he's had his PR team working overtime to conjure up some sort of defence for his actions. Pathetic. in what way ? we've heard it all before from joey, he gives great interview then does this sort of thing, he even has cheerleaders who want him applauded for not assaulting someone in 18months. whenever i think of the joey fan club i think of chris rocks "niggers" set. You guys must live in some kind of fantasy cukoo land. I personally give Joey Barton credit because I feel he has come a long way. He is no longer getting into trouble off the field, which was very much standard previously, and even on the pitch he has taken a lot and has handled himself quite well (Wolves game for example) for the most part. Why people suddenly expect him to turn into some kind of saint I will never know, ridiculously unrealistic. Even players who do not have the kind of problems he has had, sometimes show poor judgement and lash out. It happens almost every week for goodness sake. Fellaini just yesterday and Huddlestone's stamp a week ago also, just off the top of my head. Obviously what he did wasn't right but at least he's acknowledged his mistake and has admitted he has to continue to try to learn to control himself better. Some people on here seriously need to get off their high horses. God knows what some of you lot get up to in your everyday lives. I'm sure your all perfect yourselves. Jesus. Well I dunno about you but I have this totally unrealistic expectation that a player on my team wouldn't punch an opposition player. This doesn't happen every week and you're the one living in "fantasy cuckoo land" if you're seriously trying to mount any sort of defence here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Can't see how anyone can defend him. He's shown self-control in the recent past. If anything this proves he won't change, he's done well for a while now, and still he has to lash out. Just makes me feel like I'm always going to be watching him thinking 'when this time'. Like someone said a page or 2 ago, can't believe people are attempting to applaud him for going 18 months without this. I like to think someone can control themselves a bit better than that. How bad the punch itself was is irrelevant. He's a smart guy clearly, he knows that stuff like that's going to be highlighted instantly when it's him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Good to see he's had his PR team working overtime to conjure up some sort of defence for his actions. Pathetic. in what way ? we've heard it all before from joey, he gives great interview then does this sort of thing, he even has cheerleaders who want him applauded for not assaulting someone in 18months. whenever i think of the joey fan club i think of chris rocks "niggers" set. You guys must live in some kind of fantasy cukoo land. I personally give Joey Barton credit because I feel he has come a long way. He is no longer getting into trouble off the field, which was very much standard previously, and even on the pitch he has taken a lot and has handled himself quite well (Wolves game for example) for the most part. Why people suddenly expect him to turn into some kind of saint I will never know, ridiculously unrealistic. Even players who do not have the kind of problems he has had, sometimes show poor judgement and lash out. It happens almost every week for goodness sake. Fellaini just yesterday and Huddlestone's stamp a week ago also, just off the top of my head. Obviously what he did wasn't right but at least he's acknowledged his mistake and has admitted he has to continue to try to learn to control himself better. Some people on here seriously need to get off their high horses. God knows what some of you lot get up to in your everyday lives. I'm sure your all perfect yourselves. Jesus. when they show poor judgemant and lash out we slag them and castigate them. i'm just following in that vein. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Good to see he's had his PR team working overtime to conjure up some sort of defence for his actions. Pathetic. in what way ? we've heard it all before from joey, he gives great interview then does this sort of thing, he even has cheerleaders who want him applauded for not assaulting someone in 18months. whenever i think of the joey fan club i think of chris rocks "niggers" set. You guys must live in some kind of fantasy cukoo land. I personally give Joey Barton credit because I feel he has come a long way. He is no longer getting into trouble off the field, which was very much standard previously, and even on the pitch he has taken a lot and has handled himself quite well (Wolves game for example) for the most part. Why people suddenly expect him to turn into some kind of saint I will never know, ridiculously unrealistic. Even players who do not have the kind of problems he has had, sometimes show poor judgement and lash out. It happens almost every week for goodness sake. Fellaini just yesterday and Huddlestone's stamp a week ago also, just off the top of my head. Obviously what he did wasn't right but at least he's acknowledged his mistake and has admitted he has to continue to try to learn to control himself better. Some people on here seriously need to get off their high horses. God knows what some of you lot get up to in your everyday lives. I'm sure your all perfect yourselves. Jesus. Well I dunno about you but I have this totally unrealistic expectation that a player on my team wouldn't punch an opposition player. This doesn't happen every week and you're the one living in "fantasy cuckoo land" if you're seriously trying to mount any sort of defence here. Defence? Did you even read what I wrote at all. The guy made a mistake. It doesn't mean he's the same old Joey Barton as you lot are claiming, because in my opinion he isn't. If you can't recognise that he has come a long way than that's your problem. If your expecting the guy to become a saint and never have any hiccups along the way then you are living in fairy tale land in my opinion, yes. That's not real life I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Good to see he's had his PR team working overtime to conjure up some sort of defence for his actions. Pathetic. in what way ? we've heard it all before from joey, he gives great interview then does this sort of thing, he even has cheerleaders who want him applauded for not assaulting someone in 18months. whenever i think of the joey fan club i think of chris rocks "niggers" set. You guys must live in some kind of fantasy cukoo land. I personally give Joey Barton credit because I feel he has come a long way. He is no longer getting into trouble off the field, which was very much standard previously, and even on the pitch he has taken a lot and has handled himself quite well (Wolves game for example) for the most part. Why people suddenly expect him to turn into some kind of saint I will never know, ridiculously unrealistic. Even players who do not have the kind of problems he has had, sometimes show poor judgement and lash out. It happens almost every week for goodness sake. Fellaini just yesterday and Huddlestone's stamp a week ago also, just off the top of my head. Obviously what he did wasn't right but at least he's acknowledged his mistake and has admitted he has to continue to try to learn to control himself better. Some people on here seriously need to get off their high horses. God knows what some of you lot get up to in your everyday lives. I'm sure your all perfect yourselves. Jesus. Well I dunno about you but I have this totally unrealistic expectation that a player on my team wouldn't punch an opposition player. This doesn't happen every week and you're the one living in "fantasy cuckoo land" if you're seriously trying to mount any sort of defence here. Defence? Did you even read what I wrote at all. The guy made a mistake. It doesn't mean he's the same old Joey Barton as you lot are claiming, because in my opinion he isn't. If you can't recognise that he has come a long way than that's your problem. If your expecting the guy to become a saint and never have any hiccups along the way then you are living in fairy tale land in my opinion, yes. That'snot real life I'm afraid. so, lets say for example it was a player at another club or a standard member of the public who lashed out after admittedly not having lashed out for a year or two... i'd like to think if it was one of your mates doing that you'd call him a dick and stop him doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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