jdckelly Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Oh I'm not but I do believe even if Jose was after a lot more money he was still ambitious which played a part in his move (he wouldn't have moved to QPR or West Ham no matter what basically). The long and short of it is there are a lot of people in the wrong over this (not just the easy target, the board) and the only ones really losing out are us, the fans (and slightly the board who could have got more money for all but it's their mistakes that let it get to this point so tough shit). agree with that, in my book Enrique wants to get into Spain team and he has a much better chance of that at Liverpool than us (which doesn't reflect well on the way some managers view things tbh) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 stevewraith steve wraith Best message i had today from @joey7barton 'i will be back when these 2 c@&*s f!?k off. I love the club and i love the fans' #nufc This cunt loves his texts like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Be interesting to see how things develop at QPR. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a softer ride from the southern media now he's joined a London club. Well they were queuing up earlier to welcome him to London. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9188/rklgnsdlrnbgsrklg.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Wraith also reckons he has a talk-in lined up at the end of the season with Carroll, Nolan, Barton and A.N Other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Wraith also reckons he has a talk-in lined up at the end of the season with Carroll, Nolan, Barton and A.N Other. That would go well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Wraith's a fucking bellend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 I used to follow that twat Wraith, but all he does is plug his shite events. His bio claims he's an actor as well. So far up his own arse its unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 My personal belief is under Hughton the likes of Nolan and Barton had pretty much free reign, Ashley rightly or wrongly (probably a bit of both) didn't like this and replaced Hughton brining in a manager who wouldn't go along with this. The players in the 'clique' didn't like this one bit, then when they weren't offered the big contracts they demanded used the obvious ill feeling the fans have towards the board (Barton being the biggest offender) to cause unrest and get moves away for cheap enough to allow these demands to be fulfilled by other clubs. Enrique, although I think led us along quite a bit at least left for genuine ambitious reasons. Now I am not absolving the board of any blame, all 3 players should have either stayed or not been allowed to leave for the pittance we got however I think the players have lied just as much, if not more than the board and have used the animosity mentioned above to sway the fans. *tin hat* They may have been strong characters that stood up to the hierarchy but I would be amazed if the same story doesn't happen next year when Colo and Jonas are into the final year of their contracts and they turn down new offers. And others move on for better wages and to more ambitious clubs. Their leaving will probably be less acrimonious because they are not likely to rock the boat. We have to expect that as soon as we have a decent player on our hands, that they will move on fairly quickly once they get a better offer that this club are not prepared to match. At the moment, we should have enough about us (providing we find someone who can score goals) to survive the the recent exodus but I don't think that will continue to be the case if the same scenario is repeated every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Wraith's a fucking bellend. Friend of the Krays though, true story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Question, with such a frugal board, what justification do they have for letting him leave on a free? Seems a childish temperamental move, much like the sort of action they find unacceptable with Joey... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Wraith's a fucking bellend. A chronic one at that. Couldn't be less interested about a talk-in like that. Even if they spill the truth, it's likely what we already suspect anyway. Ex-NUFC players talking about how shit the club is and how great it is being elsewhere? Fuck that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 For such a "buy and sell for a profit" board they have done pretty badly with Barton, Nolan and Jose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Question, with such a frugal board, what justification do they have for letting him leave on a free? Seems a childish temperamental move, much like the sort of action they find unacceptable with Joey... They are childish and cunts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Wraith is a chronic bellend. He's the players puppet with his 'Wey av had a text from Andy' like it's gospel. What are they even going to say at the talk in we don't already know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Oh I'm not but I do believe even if Jose was after a lot more money he was still ambitious which played a part in his move (he wouldn't have moved to QPR or West Ham no matter what basically). The long and short of it is there are a lot of people in the wrong over this (not just the easy target, the board) and the only ones really losing out are us, the fans (and slightly the board who could have got more money for all but it's their mistakes that let it get to this point so tough shit). Still no excuse for going in to a season with a weak squad despite having the money to remedy that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Wraith is a chronic bellend. He's the players puppet with his 'Wey av had a text from Andy' like it's gospel. What are they even going to say at the talk in we don't already know? Whether you agree or disagree with the transfer policy, what good does something like that do? Have a talk in with the likes of Cabaye or something, focus on the future not the players that have left the club. He's far too pally with the players to view things with a bit of context. stevewraith steve wraith You pay peanuts you get monkeys #nufc Fucking cringe. Quoting what Barton said, pathetic suck-up. Then he contradicts himself by saying he thinks Tioté will be next. So you rate him then, Steve? Did he not cost 'peanuts'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 My personal belief is under Hughton the likes of Nolan and Barton had pretty much free reign, Ashley rightly or wrongly (probably a bit of both) didn't like this and replaced Hughton brining in a manager who wouldn't go along with this. The players in the 'clique' didn't like this one bit, then when they weren't offered the big contracts they demanded used the obvious ill feeling the fans have towards the board (Barton being the biggest offender) to cause unrest and get moves away for cheap enough to allow these demands to be fulfilled by other clubs. Enrique, although I think led us along quite a bit at least left for genuine ambitious reasons. Now I am not absolving the board of any blame, all 3 players should have either stayed or not been allowed to leave for the pittance we got however I think the players have lied just as much, if not more than the board and have used the animosity mentioned above to sway the fans. *tin hat* They may have been strong characters that stood up to the hierarchy but I would be amazed if the same story doesn't happen next year when Colo and Jonas are into the final year of their contracts and they turn down new offers. And others move on for better wages and to more ambitious clubs. Their leaving will probably be less acrimonious because they are not likely to rock the boat. We have to expect that as soon as we have a decent player on our hands, that they will move on fairly quickly once they get a better offer that this club are not prepared to match. At the moment, we should have enough about us (providing we find someone who can score goals) to survive the the recent exodus but I don't think that will continue to be the case if the same scenario is repeated every year. The problem is we are not a top 4 club, and only the top 4 can pay big wages within a long term structure. The rest can pay it for a while, like Villa tried to, but if you don't break into the top 4 you are then in over your head and the cost cutting will be hard. It's a tough pill to swallow but we are coming back from a long way down and at this stage there's not a lot we can do to stop our players being cherry picked except get the best prices we can and try and replace them well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Someone asked how Barton never replies when he tweets him all of the time. "Ask him mate. I've got his mobile number so don't need to" was the c***'s reply ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 can we never ever mention Wraith again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 can we never ever mention Wraith again He apparently reads this board. So aslong as it's him being slated then fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Wraith is a chronic bellend. He's the players puppet with his 'Wey av had a text from Andy' like it's gospel. What are they even going to say at the talk in we don't already know? Whether you agree or disagree with the transfer policy, what good does something like that do? Have a talk in with the likes of Cabaye or something, focus on the future not the players that have left the club. He's far too pally with the players to view things with a bit of context. stevewraith steve wraith You pay peanuts you get monkeys #nufc f***ing cringe. Quoting what Barton said, pathetic suck-up. Then he contradicts himself by saying he thinks Tioté will be next. So you rate him then, Steve? Did he not cost 'peanuts'? Some fan has just hit the nail on the head calling him a wannabe celebrity fan. He talks about those departed having balls and character yet ignores they took us down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Remember him bragging about getting loads of texts from carroll and that he was goung to type a transcript up. Fucking cock end. He's like a loudmouthed kid banging on about getting his big brother to fill people in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 Question, with such a frugal board, what justification do they have for letting him leave on a free? Seems a childish temperamental move, much like the sort of action they find unacceptable with Joey... They are childish and c***s Maybe more went on with Joey that we dont know about, their attitude was definitely just get him out of the club, more to it than meets the eye i would think. Just saying, not sticking up for them as you say they are a pair of cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 27, 2011 Share Posted August 27, 2011 My personal belief is under Hughton the likes of Nolan and Barton had pretty much free reign, Ashley rightly or wrongly (probably a bit of both) didn't like this and replaced Hughton brining in a manager who wouldn't go along with this. The players in the 'clique' didn't like this one bit, then when they weren't offered the big contracts they demanded used the obvious ill feeling the fans have towards the board (Barton being the biggest offender) to cause unrest and get moves away for cheap enough to allow these demands to be fulfilled by other clubs. Enrique, although I think led us along quite a bit at least left for genuine ambitious reasons. Now I am not absolving the board of any blame, all 3 players should have either stayed or not been allowed to leave for the pittance we got however I think the players have lied just as much, if not more than the board and have used the animosity mentioned above to sway the fans. *tin hat* They may have been strong characters that stood up to the hierarchy but I would be amazed if the same story doesn't happen next year when Colo and Jonas are into the final year of their contracts and they turn down new offers. And others move on for better wages and to more ambitious clubs. Their leaving will probably be less acrimonious because they are not likely to rock the boat. We have to expect that as soon as we have a decent player on our hands, that they will move on fairly quickly once they get a better offer that this club are not prepared to match. At the moment, we should have enough about us (providing we find someone who can score goals) to survive the the recent exodus but I don't think that will continue to be the case if the same scenario is repeated every year. The problem is we are not a top 4 club, and only the top 4 can pay big wages within a long term structure. The rest can pay it for a while, like Villa tried to, but if you don't break into the top 4 you are then in over your head and the cost cutting will be hard. It's a tough pill to swallow but we are coming back from a long way down and at this stage there's not a lot we can do to stop our players being cherry picked except get the best prices we can and try and replace them well. I agree but we should not then be turning on the players and accusing them of greed because they consider themselves to have moved on to better things - whether that is because of ambition, salary or a better-run club. Also, most of our players always seem to want to leave on good terms with the fans for which they are also slated by many but then you gets the likes of Nasri laying into the Arsenal fans once he has moved to a new club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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