Guest BooBoo Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Guthrie's not good enough. Him going increases the like of Vuckic and Ferguson getting the chance to prove themselves. They may sink, they may swim but at least we'll know what their potential is. We already know how good/poor Guthrie is. Him leaving opens doors for others. Yep, agree with this. He's contributed nothing this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Guthrie's not good enough. Him going increases the like of Vuckic and Ferguson getting the chance to prove themselves. They may sink, they may swim but at least we'll know what their potential is. We already know how good/poor Guthrie is. Him leaving opens doors for others. Exactly man. People whinge about not blooding youngsters, what better chance is there than now when there's no danger of relegation? Plus we're getting rid of a player who's clearly not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Good News, obviously means Ireland and Gosling are due back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 As if he'll play the fucking youngsters man. It'll be Ireland on the wing and Perch alongside Nolan in the centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 As if he'll play the fucking youngsters man. It'll be Ireland on the wing and Perch alongside Nolan in the centre. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Wanted to see Perch in the DM role as his final crack actually, got a feeling he would "do a Simpson/Best". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 If the youngsters are good enough why aren't they getting in already? Makes no sense to get rid of someone who may still be needed in this campaign just give them a go, give them a go anyway. I find it hard to believe that Guthries relatively nothing wages make much of a different on the old balance sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 If the youngsters are good enough why aren't they getting in already? Makes no sense to get rid of someone who may still be needed in this campaign just give them a go, give them a go anyway. I find it hard to believe that Guthries relatively nothing wages make much of a different on the old balance sheet. But loaning him to a Championship club potentially on the way up puts him in the shop window to get £2m or so in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Isn't Zamblera apparently on more than Guthrie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Who's going to fill in when Tiote picks up that inevitable yellow card? Guthrie did alright a few weeks ago when he did. Are we that desperate to get that 4 grand a week off the wage bill? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkzter Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 This cant be true!? We are already piss weak in depth and cover no matter how bad Guthrie is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Who's going to fill in when Tiote picks up that inevitable yellow card? Guthrie did alright a few weeks ago when he did. Are we that desperate to get that 4 grand a week off the wage bill? Not to mention R.Tayor's suspension, Barton's possible injury and Gosling/Ireland not yet fit. Yet another genius move like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 If the youngsters are good enough why aren't they getting in already? Makes no sense to get rid of someone who may still be needed in this campaign just give them a go, give them a go anyway. I find it hard to believe that Guthries relatively nothing wages make much of a different on the old balance sheet. But loaning him to a Championship club potentially on the way up puts him in the shop window to get £2m or so in the summer. He's already proven himself in the Championship though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 If the youngsters are good enough why aren't they getting in already? Makes no sense to get rid of someone who may still be needed in this campaign just give them a go, give them a go anyway. I find it hard to believe that Guthries relatively nothing wages make much of a different on the old balance sheet. Probably more to do with the fee we eventually get for him. If he helps to get Forest up then his 'worth' will be reasonably high. Had he stayed here then no-one would have given a bucket of piss for him. Him going out puts him in the shop window. Hopefully some twat will be daft enough to give us a million for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 If the youngsters are good enough why aren't they getting in already? Makes no sense to get rid of someone who may still be needed in this campaign just give them a go, give them a go anyway. I find it hard to believe that Guthries relatively nothing wages make much of a different on the old balance sheet. Probably more to do with the fee we eventually get for him. If he helps to get Forest up then his 'worth' will be reasonably high. Had he stayed here then no-one would have given a bucket of piss for him. Him going out puts him in the shop window. Hopefully some dat t*** will be daft enough to give us a million for him. Like Ameobi at Stoke? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 If the youngsters are good enough why aren't they getting in already? Makes no sense to get rid of someone who may still be needed in this campaign just give them a go, give them a go anyway. I find it hard to believe that Guthries relatively nothing wages make much of a different on the old balance sheet. But loaning him to a Championship club potentially on the way up puts him in the shop window to get £2m or so in the summer. He's already proven himself in the Championship though. But if he comes up with Forest, they've already seen what he can/can't do, will have been a part of the setup & squad, and will make it more likely they give us a few million from him rather than other targets. If he's not good enough for them, then there's no point of keeping him here in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 With Barton possibly crocked and Taylor out for three games, we should be trying to get Routledge back, not attempting to get more midfielders off the books. You'd think having to utilise Lovenkrands on the right wing would have rung the alarm bell like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 With Barton possibly crocked and Taylor out for three games, we should be trying to get Routledge back, not attempting to get more midfielders off the books. You'd think having to utilise Lovenkrands on the right wing would have rung the alarm bell like. Not to mention Simpson on Saturday as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 This is actually awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 If the youngsters are good enough why aren't they getting in already? Makes no sense to get rid of someone who may still be needed in this campaign just give them a go, give them a go anyway. I find it hard to believe that Guthries relatively nothing wages make much of a different on the old balance sheet. Probably more to do with the fee we eventually get for him. If he helps to get Forest up then his 'worth' will be reasonably high. Had he stayed here then no-one would have given a bucket of piss for him. Him going out puts him in the shop window. Hopefully some dat t*** will be daft enough to give us a million for him. Like Ameobi at Stoke? Similar. If he's a success then he'll probably leave for a decent fee. If he flops then we've lost very little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Guthrie isn't good enough and I'd flog him in the summer based on someone else coming in. However loaning him out now is a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 With Barton possibly crocked and Taylor out for three games, we should be trying to get Routledge back, not attempting to get more midfielders off the books. You'd think having to utilise Lovenkrands on the right wing would have rung the alarm bell like. Fucking exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 With Barton possibly crocked and Taylor out for three games, we should be trying to get Routledge back, not attempting to get more midfielders off the books. You'd think having to utilise Lovenkrands on the right wing would have rung the alarm bell like. Routledge not being here is ridiculous. He would have played a big part for us this last month had he still been here. That's still a barmy decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 With Barton possibly crocked and Taylor out for three games, we should be trying to get Routledge back, not attempting to get more midfielders off the books. You'd think having to utilise Lovenkrands on the right wing would have rung the alarm bell like. f***ing exactly. If we'd been in a relegation battle, I'd agree. If we lose Barton & Tiote to injury or suspension or whatever then we'd miss out on Europe whether we had Routledge & Guthrie playing, or Perch & Lovenkrands. We've got two players who'd offer little to the overall position we finish this season in the shop window now where QPR & Forest will probably give us £4-5m for two players who will not be good enough for us next season. Look at the bigger picture man instead of, "ooo what if Tiote's out for two games and Perch has to play twice and we finish 12th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Our bench is absolutely dire though. We have nothing to change a game or to bring on if a player gets injured. If Barton is out who do we play RM against Everton? Jonas or Ranger? If Jonas goes right then who plays on the left? Ranger out wide? The depth is pathetic. Especially when half our midfield are just a card or 2 away from a ban. We're needlessly stretching our squad. I'd bet Routledge and Guthrie are on a pittance in terms of wages too. Guthrie is on £4k p/w if he is still on the same contract he had when he went to court. Mental that his teammate Owen was earning more than 25 x him. Why would we do it? Could only be for massive financial benefit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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