Mick Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 No. You send them out on loan. Where they are still untested teenagers, something which Van Aanholt was when we brought him in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Could he maybe do a job in centre mid alongside Tiote, with Nolan pushed further up? Would rather the other way round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Van Aanholt wasn't an experiment, it was necessity. You're advocating putting defenders in the first team just for the sake of it. Not quite madness, but you can understand why CH didn't do it often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Van Aanholt wasn't an experiment, it was necessity. You're advocating putting defenders in the first team just for the sake of it. Not quite madness, but you can understand why CH didn't do it often. Who said we should put a defender in the first team for the sake of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 You, basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 You, basically. Got a link to where I said that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 This COULD be his time to shine. He has scored some excellent goals for the reserves - and has a sweet left foot. Certainly worth a try, late on in games against tiring defences. I think he could in all honesty become the next 'Carroll' - in terms of value skyrocketing. (Not sold in the same way, obviously I hope!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I thought him and Ranger were two of our best players when we lost to Arsenal in the Carling Cup. Vukic needs to play in a team with good passing ability rather than the hoof and battle ploy we currently employ. He's fast and direct, we just need midfielders who'll release him early. Same could be said for Ranger tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If Haris gets himself fit, even though they are both kids we could find that our best option while Shola is out is put Haris and Ranger upfront. They have played together plenty of times and have a good understanding at reserve level. You'd need a manager with balls to throw an 18 and 19 year old upfront together though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 He's fast?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 He's fast?? I didn't think so, but he seemed to be in the Arsenal cup game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 No. You send them out on loan. Where they are still untested teenagers, something which Van Aanholt was when we brought him in. Van Aanholt had had half a season at Coventry prior to moving to us, something which was obviously noted by CH/scouts and saw enough in that time to bring him in as cover where he did a very good job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Van Aanholt had had half a season at Coventry prior to moving to us, something which was obviously noted by CH/scouts and saw enough in that time to bring him in as cover where he did a very good job. Half a season at Coventry is hardly a great deal of experience, I still say starting Van Aanholt ahead of our own player was crazy. Not just because Kadar was ours but because he was good enough to start for us in the Championship and in need of more experience, experience that we gave to a player from another club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Van Aanholt had had half a season at Coventry prior to moving to us, something which was obviously noted by CH/scouts and saw enough in that time to bring him in as cover where he did a very good job. Half a season at Coventry is hardly a great deal of experience, I still say starting Van Aanholt ahead of our own player was crazy. Not just because Kadar was ours but because he was good enough to start for us in the Championship and in need of more experience, experience that we gave to a player from another club. Kadar isn't a natural attacking LB though which is what was needed to replace Jose, Van Aanholt was and half a season is more than enough to show you can cope with the league. I do understand where you're coming from though. I've not seen a lot of Vuckic but what I have seen I've been impressed by and it's a great shame he has been injured again for large swathes of the season and if we're safe I'd want him playing ahead of Ireland anyday of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 5, 2011 Share Posted February 5, 2011 Kadar isn't a natural attacking LB though which is what was needed to replace Jose, Van Aanholt was and half a season is more than enough to show you can cope with the league. I do understand where you're coming from though. I've not seen a lot of Vuckic but what I have seen I've been impressed by and it's a great shame he has been injured again for large swathes of the season and if we're safe I'd want him playing ahead of Ireland anyday of the week. I thought that he did well when he played at left back and didn't hold us back as he got forward well. He was more than good enough for the Championship last season and he showed that when he played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 When (hopefully not a "if") we're in safety this season i would like to see him given some games with our best players starting as well. Could save us millions, and im all for giving youth the chance when possible. I think he would improve more quickly playing with some quality players around him as well. (our strikers are below average though) as well as well as well as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Cracking little interview with him on NUTV today. I know we have a wealth of attacking midfielders, but really hope he gets some more games this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Cracking little interview with him on NUTV today. I know we have a wealth of attacking midfielders, but really hope he gets some more games this year. Huge year ahead for him really. If he really is (as many say) going to be a top player then he needs to start showing glimpses this season. It's been mildly disappointing how little impact he's made in the last two years. I do accept however he spent a long time last season injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Cracking little interview with him on NUTV today. I know we have a wealth of attacking midfielders, but really hope he gets some more games this year. Huge year ahead for him really. If he really is (as many say) going to be a top player then he needs to start showing glimpses this season. It's been mildly disappointing how little impact he's made in the last two years. I do accept however he spent a long time last season injured. To say the least, but as you say, the injuries must have played a massive part in that. Fingers crossed that he's over them now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I don't see where he'll get his chance even if he is fit, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 He does seem a canny lad, good English too, and at least he can't do his hammy plying table tennis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 I don't see where he'll get his chance even if he is fit, tbh. Cup games, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Needs to play with proven players in his natural position to have a chance to become more than "potential" And stay fit of course. Have a good feeling he will do well this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Very easy to forget that he is still only 18. Even despite the injuries over the last couple of seasons he still has a lot of time to make up for what he's lost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Also I think when he does get gametime in the cups Pardew will be more inclined to play him in his 'natural' position than Hughton ever was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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