juniatmoko Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 walcott can be attacking midfielder... which more versatile... rather see owen as striker... i prefer james milner as striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 walcott can be attacking midfielder Against shite sides, perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Nah. Defoe, Rooney, Crouch, Heskey and Walcott as a winger/striker for me. Out of interest, given their respective seasons, why should Walcott be ahead of Owen? Wright Phillips and Lennon have impressed on the wings. Milner and Young would also be ahead of Walcott imo, at this current stage. Lennon would start on the right for me but doesn't get nearly enough goals. Walcott is capable of that and I'd be much happier having him on the bench (pace, good dribbling ability, eye for goal) than Owen who will make the runs but will mess up the dynamics of the team and offer next to nothing in the build up. SWP wouldn't get in the squad if I was picking it either fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Narh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniatmoko Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 owen against shit side still struggle... owen probably just as class as heidar helgulsson atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Nah. Defoe, Rooney, Crouch, Heskey and Walcott as a winger/striker for me. Out of interest, given their respective seasons, why should Walcott be ahead of Owen? Wright Phillips and Lennon have impressed on the wings. Milner and Young would also be ahead of Walcott imo, at this current stage. Lennon would start on the right for me but doesn't get nearly enough goals. Walcott is capable of that and I'd be much happier having him on the bench (pace, good dribbling ability, eye for goal) than Owen who will make the runs but will mess up the dynamics of the team and offer next to nothing in the build up. SWP wouldn't get in the squad if I was picking it either fwiw. Walcott gets plenty of goals? Really? I know Lennon doesn't but he's just as "capable". I'm prepared to give him a chance but he has a lot to prove in the coming months. If Owen is the one scoring the goals (and it's a big if, because at the moment I wouldn't) then I'd without doubt take him. Wouldn't start him like. I also realise your point in that Walcott can play more than one position, but not effectively as far as I can see. We already have the likes of Lennon, SWP, Young to choose from in terms of direct pace, and Defoe in that respect up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Reckon he'll take 5 strikers & Owen will sneak in there. He'll get in over agbonlahor & Bent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I don't like SWP, he's not the player he was and tends to need about 3 attempts to get crosses right. Young is more of a player who'll recieve it, work a yard and then cross, which is fine, but I like Walcott because he's direct and prepared to run with the ball from deep and also gets in the box. He's got a good opportunity now with van persie and Bendtner injured to get a run of games (provided he doesn't get injured himself) and prove himself. He wouldn't start, but he's a much better option from the bench than Owen imo, Owen really doesn't suit our team at all, we'll be playing with two wingers and probably aiming for Heskey (ugh) I don't back Owen to pick up the scraps anymore. Obviously we'll see in the next months, but in this moment I'd take Walcott cos he's got more to his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Reckon he'll take 5 strikers & Owen will sneak in there. He'll get in over agbonlahor & Bent. if owen get's in ahead of bent, bent has 10 league goals or something now, he has 2 capello will need shooting if he does that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I fucking hope not, but then if Heskey can go then the door must be open for a wide range of donkeys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 4 goals in the last 4 tournaments and people think 'he's a good option if we need a goal'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Owen in the England squad. Yes please. Start Rio Ferdinand in every game too, while at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 He has the experience the others dont, thats the difference. He's played for us on the big stage before & is less likely to have his performances effected by the pressure of the situation. Bent/Agbonlahor are more likely to put in average performances for England at the WC, depends how confident theyd be going into it. If Owen has even a decent/good season though, i think he'll get in ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Owen in the England squad. Yes please. Start Rio Ferdinand in every game too, while at it. Probably will anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Agbonlahor and Bent are very good footballers who can score goals against good defenders. They have to be above him in the pecking order and are, thank fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 You only have to look at how the England squad has done without him. His only hope of going to the world cup is an injury to Berbatov and then maybe he can forge a partnership with Rooney in the league. At the moment he's not even getting league games let alone goals. He has a lot of convincing to do, he has to be playing and scoring regularly. A few goals against Wolfsburg and this debate has opened up again, it's absurd. It's years since he proved his form and fitness. Going to the world cup with excuses ready about match fitness is not something I imagine Capello will accept. He's looking to build a winning team and to date has not considered Owen a part of that. It'll take regular football and regular goals to convince him otherwise, not cameo appearances and a few goals in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 You only have to look at how the England squad has done without him. His only hope of going to the world cup is an injury to Berbatov and then maybe he can forge a partnership with Rooney in the league. At the moment he's not even getting league games let alone goals. He has a lot of convincing to do, he has to be playing and scoring regularly. A few goals against Wolfsburg and this debate has opened up again, it's absurd. It's years since he proved his form and fitness. Going to the world cup with excuses ready about match fitness is not something I imagine Capello will accept. He's looking to build a winning team and to date has not considered Owen a part of that. It'll take regular football and regular goals to convince him otherwise, not cameo appearances and a few goals in Europe. And this is my point. Of course at the moment he shouldn't be going, but say he was scoring regularly in the next 20-25 games. Surely he must be at the very least a serious consideration? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Manchester United strikers not named Wayne Rooney aren't having the most brilliant seasons, surely Owen will get his chance at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 You only have to look at how the England squad has done without him. His only hope of going to the world cup is an injury to Berbatov and then maybe he can forge a partnership with Rooney in the league. At the moment he's not even getting league games let alone goals. He has a lot of convincing to do, he has to be playing and scoring regularly. A few goals against Wolfsburg and this debate has opened up again, it's absurd. It's years since he proved his form and fitness. Going to the world cup with excuses ready about match fitness is not something I imagine Capello will accept. He's looking to build a winning team and to date has not considered Owen a part of that. It'll take regular football and regular goals to convince him otherwise, not cameo appearances and a few goals in Europe. And this is my point. Of course at the moment he shouldn't be going, but say he was scoring regularly in the next 20-25 games. Surely he must be at the very least a serious consideration? Surely this goes for most players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 You only have to look at how the England squad has done without him. His only hope of going to the world cup is an injury to Berbatov and then maybe he can forge a partnership with Rooney in the league. At the moment he's not even getting league games let alone goals. He has a lot of convincing to do, he has to be playing and scoring regularly. A few goals against Wolfsburg and this debate has opened up again, it's absurd. It's years since he proved his form and fitness. Going to the world cup with excuses ready about match fitness is not something I imagine Capello will accept. He's looking to build a winning team and to date has not considered Owen a part of that. It'll take regular football and regular goals to convince him otherwise, not cameo appearances and a few goals in Europe. And this is my point. Of course at the moment he shouldn't be going, but say he was scoring regularly in the next 20-25 games. Surely he must be at the very least a serious consideration? Well let's have that debate when he actually starts playing and scoring regularly. It's a long time since he did that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Manchester United strikers not named Wayne Rooney aren't having the most brilliant seasons, surely Owen will get his chance at some point. He's got to find the goals which they have lost from Ronaldo. Good luck to him on that one. If the fickle manc fans aren't abusing him from every corner of old trafford by the end of the season he'll have done well. Little shit that he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 You only have to look at how the England squad has done without him. His only hope of going to the world cup is an injury to Berbatov and then maybe he can forge a partnership with Rooney in the league. At the moment he's not even getting league games let alone goals. He has a lot of convincing to do, he has to be playing and scoring regularly. A few goals against Wolfsburg and this debate has opened up again, it's absurd. It's years since he proved his form and fitness. Going to the world cup with excuses ready about match fitness is not something I imagine Capello will accept. He's looking to build a winning team and to date has not considered Owen a part of that. It'll take regular football and regular goals to convince him otherwise, not cameo appearances and a few goals in Europe. And this is my point. Of course at the moment he shouldn't be going, but say he was scoring regularly in the next 20-25 games. Surely he must be at the very least a serious consideration? There's as much chance of that happening as there is of me shagging Cheryl Cole tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 You only have to look at how the England squad has done without him. His only hope of going to the world cup is an injury to Berbatov and then maybe he can forge a partnership with Rooney in the league. At the moment he's not even getting league games let alone goals. He has a lot of convincing to do, he has to be playing and scoring regularly. A few goals against Wolfsburg and this debate has opened up again, it's absurd. It's years since he proved his form and fitness. Going to the world cup with excuses ready about match fitness is not something I imagine Capello will accept. He's looking to build a winning team and to date has not considered Owen a part of that. It'll take regular football and regular goals to convince him otherwise, not cameo appearances and a few goals in Europe. And this is my point. Of course at the moment he shouldn't be going, but say he was scoring regularly in the next 20-25 games. Surely he must be at the very least a serious consideration? Surely this goes for most players? It does. I'm just get the feeling that with what's gone on with Owen at Newcastle, people would refuse to see him there regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ProudToBeAGeordie Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 No chance of him going. Does not deserve to anyway, done nowt in the past 2 or more years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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